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siriusbliss wrote:Nothing will change - it's just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
That's how the future is profiling but I don't underestimate the worst as we've not seen the worst side of crisis yet. It's just the first impact on "real" economy we are currently living (2nd support plan in US?)... And that's not a hope I express... Though...

IMHO Obama (US admin basically) will have to deal with more and more constraints in the near future.
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iSiStOy, the problem is that it doesn't work that way....
it's closer to this(and that was almost 40 years ago, things are much further along than this in reality).

you have been fed b$ even by the "alternative media". it's all the same money and system, and the rest is just a puppet show to keep you occupied, entertained and confused.
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Yeah! I liked it last time you posted it somewhere here (I'm lurking a LOT!).

You mean about the zeitgeist stuff? I've been discussing a lot about that with friends of mine, in France, England and Lux recently.
Like Valis said previously, I agree it's all about the human being a wolf for itself...

So I add: watch your instincts and "never do to others what you don't want anybody to do to you"
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IMHO a NGO counterweight could birth from the hashes of our system. Seems like they become fossilized by their constraints, at all levels. It really needs fresh air!
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Wasn't that Peter Ustinov (RIP) acting?! I've learned about him when I was studying English, 10 years ago...
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zietgiest works like this-
the Devil will tell you the truth, to lead you in the wrong direction.
the people behind zietgiest are the same ones who make all the trouble. there IS a lot of truth in their films, but the conclusions are whack...
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iSiStOy wrote:IMHO a NGO counterweight could birth from the hashes of our system. Seems like they become fossilized by their constraints, at all levels. It really needs fresh air!
the NWO LOVES NGOs. they have no constraints on their actions. since they are non-government and corporate, there's really no one to hold accountable. they are funded directly by the money and power behind the banks and big endowments(like the Rothschilds organizations like the IMF and like the UN who has already declared that 6 BILLION MUST DIE). the idea is to paint a friendly smiley face on the murderer. the gloves don't come off until the majority are convinced that these NGOs are their new authorities and the "old" "democracies" can be dismantled. you'd best believe that the name for this process is "neo-fuedalism".

if we keep looking to the same sources for help and solutions, we'll be continually plagued by the hegelian dialectic and other attacks on "human nature".
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Garyb wrote:the Devil will tell you the truth, to lead you in the wrong direction.
the people behind zietgiest are the same ones who make all the trouble. there IS a lot of truth in their films, but the conclusions are whack...
Yep, I'm conscious about these conclusions. We've all been sceptics about that but the related facts just create more questions and more hypothesis and more questions and...
Anyway, it just made me aware of some basics related to money concept through history and how this concept lacks in our studies, even (particularly?) in Europe.
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garyb wrote:they have no constraints on their actions. since they are non-government and corporate, there's really no one to hold accountable
I disagree! Not totally but I see that from the inside, and believe me or not, the IT tools we're installing for them... I've never seen that amount of precision so far in any other private companies in 8 years of integration.

Before working for such companies (3-4 years ago), Financial analysis was just bullshit to me, when deployed for profitable entities.
Now: NGOs I work for are just submitting themselves to the necessary rigour of inputing/modifying (but never deleting) ledger entries with the right dimensions (a constraint, they wouldn't be able to post transactions without it anyway), so that we can trace whatever they input into the system, in any period, with any analytical dimension. Their analytical is daily conciliated with real costs. I prefer not to speak about auditors, as they are just a joke to pass through.

Last customer problematic was to debate about the necessity to include travel costs into their analytical reports to donors (been done in a few clicks)... Which led them to the drastic decision they need to reduce these costs and they will do it!
They shall temporarily loose some donors but they understood there is no choice but to do that, moral integrity driving that decision!

I could debate with you for hours about means and real goals of foundations like Gates: the fact that they can't even invest that amount of money they have and that they are playing with it on markets, trying to make the more profitable, even without ethical thoughts about if these investments are employed on markets for completely opposite interests, it could nearly destroy all the good they do when investing into NGOs, the balance would still be be positive.
Most of scientific researches conducted by some of my customer will just kill private interests which needed decades of investment because they are faster now, gathering the best they can and forbidding (another ethical constraint) any private use of the discovery they make during their projects lifetime.

What if they were commissioned to manage global social projects, not only limiting themselves to neglected diseases, malaria, hunger, anti personal mines or urgent situations? Constraints of results and precise activity reporting but applied to some other massive good actions?
All NGOs are not acting as they should but at least, there is an emulation and most of them have the will to drastically change the worst situations all around the world...
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someday we can meet and talk about this stuff and you'll see how you've been tricked. :wink:

the Gates foundation is a perfect example. the PR about this foundation's work looks like a loving organization that just wants to help people. actually, it serves eugenics principles...

do some research on agenda for the 21st century(agenda 21). a very interesting talker about these things is Alan Watt(NOT Watts!)....

i have the writings by these guys in my possesion. that's how i speak with certainty.
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Hi Gary,

Thanks, I'll do that when possible.

I need to conciliate work and my passion with music and IT, which are huge time consumers.

All the best.
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garyb wrote:someday we can meet and talk about this stuff and you'll see how you've been tricked. :wink:

the Gates foundation is a perfect example. the PR about this foundation's work looks like a loving organization that just wants to help people. actually, it serves eugenics principles...

do some research on agenda for the 21st century(agenda 21). a very interesting talker about these things is Alan Watt(NOT Watts!)....

i have the writings by these guys in my possesion. that's how i speak with certainty.
Agenda 21 is nasty, scary crapola.

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yes it is. the really crappy, scary thing about it is that nearly every country is passing laws related to it, and the various citizens think that each of their governments are acting independantly for the citizen's benefit...
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There are a lot of insane christian zealots who equate condoms and abortion with eugenics. I am so sick and tired of hearing this. We need to wipe out religion in this world because it is causing a lot of agony.
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If all this talk of an OverGovernment is true I'd like to make a complaint. In Australia our last Prime Minister looked and sounded like Elmer Fudd, the new one looks like he belongs on Southpark. For no son of a GOD that doesnt exist's sake, at least give us a puppet who's not so embarrassing.
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I think we should just have busts like this, and some recorded speeches.

We could save thousands in production costs, and Obama could fire that piss poor production crew he has. Yesterday his teleprompter fell over, but at least the crew was wise enough and had RAID 5 Teleprompters so the show continued, and as the sheep followed the shepards, the wolves went to Suadi Arabia to beg for loans.
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Hell even Braincell might like this guy, he didn't like them right wing Christians very much either, but the Lions thought they were delicious..... :lol:
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The point of christianisty is to spread christianity in order to dominate the world. That is why birth control is taboo. They want you to have as many children as possible regardless of your ability to support them. It's also the reason they are so anti-gay.
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braincell wrote:There are a lot of insane christian zealots who equate condoms and abortion with eugenics. I am so sick and tired of hearing this. We need to wipe out religion in this world because it is causing a lot of agony.
There are a lot of insane christian zealots who equate condoms and abortion with eugenics. I am so sick and tired of hearing this. We need to wipe out religion in this world because it is causing a lot of agony.



The point of christianisty is to spread christianity in order to dominate the world. That is why birth control is taboo. They want you to have as many children as possible regardless of your ability to support them. It's also the reason they are so anti-gay.

i have no doubt that you see yourself as a good person, but your ignorance is astounding. maybe someday you can have some of your own opinions, instead of just parroting propaganda...

the Supreme Court "Justice" Ginsburg says she thought that Roe v. Wade was designed to limit "populations that we don’t want to have too many of".
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/com ... 484.column
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-cou ... enics.html

as you can see, abortion has EVERYTHING to do with eugenics. i'm not for making abortion illegal, i'm just against convieniently killing one's own children. also, i don't hate people(even though some are easy to hate)., so i wouldn't mind more. don't forget that Thomas Malthus made charts and graphs around the beginning of the 19th century that proved that everyone would die of starvation by the 20th century because of population growth(all obvious lies and fabrications today).
here's some more entertaining writings:
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/ ... icle/7136/

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/ ... sues/C164/

http://cryptogon.com/?p=9812 (from your loving obamites)
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