Hello I Need Help!! Monitoring etc Problem with Cubase SX3

[Burnin3styleFingaz]

I want use a Vocoder-Plugin Effect in Cubase SX3. I want Listen to it Live during Recording.
But I have a horrible Feedback Loop when I do more Volume from my Microphone to have trying better results in Sound.Its NOT ONLY a Microphone thing. Its results on EVERY input (Hardware-Synths etc) in this horrible Feedback Loop.
I have a LunaII Card (Scope 4.5)
The Settings in Cubase are: Monitoring Direct from Asio- And Manually Monitoring.

Please Help me What I can do in Routings or Tunings to get better results without Feedback and 2.) if possible in Latency too (Midi-Routing in another way?).
Iam Using only a Pure Masterkeyboard (Without Sounds) no other Hardware and a little Hardware-Mixer
(Hardware-Mixer out-->LunaIN
LunaOUT-->HardwaremixerIN &
MainOUT--->PowerAmplifier. My Microphone Plugged in my HardwareMixer too)
Iam using only VSTi´s to make Music.

Please give me so much as possible Infos-Tunings, to do the Best with my Music - System
Thanks
Here is a Pic from My XTC-Project

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A NonXTC-System Info is Ok too, because Iam changing maybe in the Future to Normal-System too...maybe (Many says its sounding deeper--better). Both Tips are welcome.
If possible with Project Pics,please if not its Ok too

[starcorp]

you need a hardware mixer with bus out or aux out. your mic is feeding this special out.
then routing this out to a dedicated luna hardware in (spdif source for example)
create a new asio dest and on your audio track in cubase choose this asio in as source.
then you will avoide the feedback loop with asio direct monitoring on your audio track.
but in this way, you have to struggle with the latency of your luna card.
jan

[Burnin3styleFingaz]

Thanks for your Help & Infos Starcorp

I dont have an Adat for spdif input/output. Iam using only Analog Out and In for the Mixer.
I am using my Luna many years (only Analog Out was enough for my Music).
Now I want to use the Luna Input (Iam a newbie about all the Scope-Science Routings etc..)
Sorry for my pure English but are all your infos only about Cubase SX3 & Hardware-Mixer Plugging things
"without touching" things in my Routings (Like in the Picture) because all is Ok in my XTC-Project?

If so:
I have a Behringer Eurorack UB1002 Mixer. Maybe this Mixer is not a great thing to solve my Problems. I have tried many ways.No result.
Is this better for me? : Mackie 802 Vlz3 ---> http://www.yatego.com/musikhaus-korn/p, ... lz-3-mixer

2) A second thing was the intern Cubase settings: Maybe a silly Question : I want only hear the Endresult (VocoderSound),
but the only way I found to do this , is to "Turning off the DirectMonitoring for Asio" in Cubase SX3.
Is this the better or right way? I dont know if its uses more latency. Or Iam wrong with that? What makes sense to make the best Workflow without less Quality etc?

3) About the Asio Modules: Iam now using an -Asio2-Flt Source 64 (32bit)-Module instead of -Asio2 24bit Source-, like in the Picture.
Ok...I dont need the 64 channels of -Asio2-Flt Source 64- for now (Its now like before: 4Channels)
but I think its worth for the 32bit to have the finest results in Quality and Deepness in Waveformat etc.
Its only needs resources of Ram and not of the Cpu. Please tell whether it makes sense or if Iam wrong.

4) Whats the difference between -Asio2 FIt Source 64- & -Asio2 32 Source 64-?

I hope all is written in Understandable English from me.

Greets
Cengiz

[Burnin3styleFingaz]

Edit:
Here is more Info about the Mackie 802 vlz3:
I hope this have the things to solve my Problems (Alt out etc...)

http://www.musikland-online.de/onlinesh ... Mixer.html
What you think about that?

@All
Please give Comments too.
Thanks

Greets
Cengiz

[starcorp]

das ist schon mal ganz gut das pult.
asio 24 bit reicht völlig.
direct monitoring brauchst du nicht in sx, da du ja dein aufzunehmendes signal nun über dein pult abhörst.
jan

[Burnin3styleFingaz]

Super Danke Starcorp.

Werde mir den Mackie 802 vlz3 in naher Zukunft zulegen.
Soviel ich weiss ist es Routing Technisch ja dasselbe wie der 1202er oder höher , nur eben mit weniger Anschlüssen.
Es reicht mir völlig aus, da ich ja nur ein Masterkeyboard & 1 Microphone nutze & nur VSTi´s.

Wenn 24bit ausreicht.Ok dann bleib ich auch bei 24bit.
Danke nochmal für deine Hilfe & Tipps.

Gruß
Cengiz