making sampleprograms

monopoli · Post by **monopoli** » Mon Apr 16, 2001 5:42 am

I'm probably overlooking something very simple but I've been trying for months now and I stil can't make decent programs out of seperate instrumenttones. An example. I found tenorsaxsamples; one octave, every note from C4 to B4. I use the WAV2AKAI-program to assign each note to it's corresponding key and make a program. Then I load it in my Pulsar sample player, switch on my Roland PC180A and find the notes an octave to high and not in the normal scale. Aaaaargh I feel like what I'm trying to do (using the sampleplayer as a cheap mellotron) shouldn't be so hard. Please explain it to me (I have no experience with hardwaresamplers)

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Tue Apr 17, 2001 3:38 am

What you're doing sounds right to me. But if it's giving you grief why not just load each sample into a ModV2 sample oscilattor and play it that way? Alternatively you could use one of Volker's wav drum devices to do the same thing. I know it'd be much heavier on the DSP, but if you're just recording a few riffs then perhaps you could resample the entire riff and then dump it into Cubase or whatever you're using as a complete wav.

Just a suggestion.

monopoli · Post by **monopoli** » Tue Apr 17, 2001 3:55 am

well, that's the point, I can think of several ways to make loops and stuff, but I want to be able to just load them and play them from my keyboard like a normal instrument (like those on that BestService CD). Maybe it has something to do with my midikeyboard but it's a very common one and I can't imagine I'm the only one who has tried this out.

Post by **garyb** » Tue Apr 17, 2001 3:51 pm

altho it's not a real solution,couldn't you just shift a octave down in the global controls or in your sequencer?

monopoli · Post by **monopoli** » Tue Apr 17, 2001 4:16 pm

No, the sound is just wrong and it's not in a normal scale (I tried with goodquality stringsamples from a CD I bought, and my programs end up like instant Bela Bartok, which can be nice but it's not what I wanted)

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Wed Apr 18, 2001 4:28 am

But if you loaded say 12 wavs into a ModV2 instrument with sample oscillators it could be played just like a normal instrument.

Maybe I just don't understand what you're trying to do....

monopoli · Post by **monopoli** » Wed Apr 18, 2001 4:37 am

maybe it would but I don't have a modV2. I'm one of those Pulsar1-suckers. I should buy it I guess but there's a lot of other things I should spend money on first. It's nothing that complicated or odd I'm trying. There should be others who know how to make it work. But thanks for the suggestions anyway

Mo · Post by Mo » Thu Apr 19, 2001 7:08 am

which sample-rates did the waves contain?

i had trouble some time with 48k-samples, even if my project was set to that sf. they sounded strange out of scale...

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Thu Apr 19, 2001 1:34 pm

Mo - great point. I've been watching this thread and wanting to suggest a solution but nothing came to mind (it's always worked for me, but I've had the STS4000 for over a year, so maybe my memory is fuzzy).

Try sticking to 44.1Khz WAVs in your programs and setting the samplerate to the same. I bet it will work...

monopoli · Post by **monopoli** » Sat Apr 21, 2001 1:02 am

I'll investigate it further but I had the same problem with a soundsCD I bought which is 16-bit 44.1Khz and several sounds from the internet which is edited myself in a wave-editor and saved as 16-bit 44.1Khz. On the other hand I did manage to make a normal program from a set of melletronsamples I found and I haven't found yet was I did differently there. Other suggestions anyone?