Permanent State Of Deja-Vu

[Shroomz~>]

Something that just came back round.

Let me know what you think.

Mark

[Shroomz~>]

Thanks Stardust.

The main beats are from a real TR-909 & it's really easy to get carried away with the punchy sound from that machine. It's always tempting to make it really up front & in your face in a mix.

Interesting that you suggest splitting it into more than one track, because after having made it as a single track that completely changes direction midway through, I then thought it could easily work as 2 separate tracks, although they'd only be about 3mins each.

cheers,
Mark

[dawman]

Brotha' Man Shroomz...

Sketchee is great. I downloaded it but kept forgetting to bring my stick to work.
I must listen to other music on my breaks to keep my sanity, this was perfect.
Your drums on the first tune were cool, but the drums and synths on this one were very cool.
I like the way everything seems to revolve around drums, and bringing in and out different synths is cool.
On the first rhytmic break around 2:40/3:00 what was that background ethereal sound?
Very spooky.
I use to play with drummers back in the day who could actually play those kind of backbeats but sadly they are hard to find these days. I must have auditioned 10 Rock Gods before I decided to use VDAT.

Your beats have a Headhunters kind of groove from the old Herbie Hancock stuff. Not his pop/funk stuff, but rather the Spank-a-Lee, and Actual Proof kind of grooves.
Do you listen to that stuff much?
If not it sure seems like it. Those beats and grooves, as well as yours are difficult to program, but most refreshing.

Really Really Nice stuff. Give Us More.

[Shroomz~>]

On the first rhytmic break around 2:40/3:00 what was that background ethereal sound?

It was a sample based atmospheric pad from an old s750 sample CD-rom called Distorted Reality. You'll probably remember that CD.

Your beats have a Headhunters kind of groove from the old Herbie Hancock stuff. Not his pop/funk stuff, but rather the Spank-a-Lee, and Actual Proof kind of grooves. Do you listen to that stuff much?

The only Herbie Hancock I listen to generally is when Giles Peterson plays it, which is actually quite frequently. I wasn't listening to GP back when I made this though..

If not it sure seems like it. Those beats and grooves, as well as yours are difficult to program, but most refreshing.

The beats in this were done by programming a TR-909 from Cubase on a Falcon.

cheers,
Mark

[dawman]

I thought I recognized DR I. I liked it so much I bought Transfusion and DRII, also on Akai converted to Giga these days.
Not sure what Falcon is, but the drums and synth insertions are nice, especially the drums.
Real Nice Job.

[Shroomz~>]

Atari Falcon. No midi timing problems on that old DAWG. It was the first DAW that sharc & I used (unless you count the Amiga) & was running a very early version of Cubase Audio from before the days of VST.

cheers,
Mark

[dawman]

My God I forgot all about that app. !!!
I use to have Opcode 5.0, but I still love Yamaha hardware sequencers wherever lights and effects along w/ MIDI sequencing are concerned.

That's the beauty of dedicated app.'s and dedicated hardware. It does a specific task, and does it well. No need for the " All In One " application. I however would love to see a DSP platform like ours w/ the " All In One " solution. Whoever can back up that claim w/ DSP's and it's own O.S. will surely put an end to the current business models we suffer and prosper with.

You're a warrior.

[Shroomz~>]

It's really interesting to note how things have progressed in Cubase over the course of it's lifespan to date. 15 years ago, the version of Cubase Audio that we used on the Atari Falcon was rock solid with MIDI & back then the primary usage of Cubase was surprise surprise, for MIDI. All those years ago Cubase had relatively advanced midi, such as quantizing options galore, standard randomization options for velocity, pitch, note length etc. You had the amazing logical editor & practically all of the editing functionality that you see in Cubase to this day. All in all it probably had 80% of the midi functionality that it has in 2008.... 15 years ago. So what have they added to the midi functionality since then that's worth mentioning? Answers on a postcard please.

Unfortunately for MIDI (shitty protocol or not), Steinberg were realizing that they needed to develop HD recording & that that was the future for them. As soon as they entered the PC market with Cubase & the early versions of VST, midi seems to have been an afterthought, possibly even just something which was tagged on to their new VST HD recording software. Enter midi timing issues which are probably as much M$'s fault as Steinberg's.

cheers,
Mark

[next to nothing]

(unless you count the Amiga)
Mark

wtf?! Didnt the amiga count?!? i used that from my trusty 500 back in 88 until i my 1200 dissappeared in the late 90s!

I even had a 303 emulator on that one, only took a couple of hours to render a 16 bar segment in all its 8 bit glory!

Seriously, if you want really tight peogramming, hook up a yamaha A3000 or similar to an amiga or atari and you have a beat machine for next to nothing.

[Shroomz~>]

wtf?! Didnt the amiga count?!? i used that from my trusty 500 back in 88 until i my 1200 dissappeared in the late 90s!

Still got a working Amiga 1200, 600 & 500 here... they couldn't possibly be skipped.
Still got a working Atari Mega ST here too... with Cubase.

Seriously, if you want really tight peogramming, hook up a yamaha A3000 or similar to an amiga or atari and you have a beat machine for next to nothing.

Take your choice of sampler. These days you can buy 2-3 thousand dollar Akai & emu samplers for Next to Nothing... ... the second hand sampler market is great for the consumer...

cheers,
Mark

[next to nothing]

forgot to comment on the tune though... which is so straight up my alley, if i had a weird sexual preference to tunes, i would be boning it right now.

keep up the good work.

[spacef]

when i sold my old atari 2 years ago, i recorded back all the songs i had on atari, and did the same on the eps16+ songs, and realized the midi is much less precise than anything of nowadays (but thought like shroomz before i listened again). it is just that, in those days, people were less demanding and standards were not high as nowadays. Atari is not better than what we have today, it is less good, but sufficient. the EPS sequencer was much better in terms of timing, but far from perfect. i did most of my songs in the EPS (before i had an atari) and it was good enough, but far from perfect and not "solid" at all.

[Shroomz~>]

What type of Atari & midi interface were you using Mehdi? Sounds a bit strange that you didn't find it rock solid.

[Fluxpod]

Nice tune!Went right into my Playlist