Well, I should consider me affected for choice.
Ok now let me go off at a tangent, on the trail of previous discussions.
My concrete trouble at now is with overpopulation of jellyfishes.
I still have some contacts with the nature and animals, but ... I've just swum on a jellyfish.
Since the temperature of the water on the surface of the sea is going on this scary raising trend they started over-reproducing themselves.
And they do give pain.
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ask spongebob about jellyfishes ... He is knowledgeable ! 
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Going back to the tale. Beyond the manipulation side, I'm wondering if another component is reflecting the reality: the enlistment of promising people into lodges and secret organizations.
The form of the experiment made the promising people to keep their distance. The forms can be different, of course. Or, some kind of promising people could have different disposition.
The form of the experiment made the promising people to keep their distance. The forms can be different, of course. Or, some kind of promising people could have different disposition.
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no, the population won't just skyrocket, nor are we anywhere near overpopulation. if you put the entire population of the world into the state of texas, there are over 1100 square feet per person. all shortages are artificial. face it, the people who run things do NOT love you. if they tell you you must die for the good of the earth, be sure they lie.
what a great example of the "third wave" in action...
what a great example of the "third wave" in action...
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For sure I am the crown of evolution .... particularly when I go to the toilet and I throw my jewels
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As people get more informed, there'll be more informed people. Each one, a powerhouse.
We are at a time where most notions fail. What does religion pretend to be? What does the dictator / king / leader really represent? How come people so easily manifest hierarchy?
What gap are we trying to fill with these constructions?
It's easier to fool with the truth...
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We are at a time where most notions fail. What does religion pretend to be? What does the dictator / king / leader really represent? How come people so easily manifest hierarchy?
What gap are we trying to fill with these constructions?
It's easier to fool with the truth...
T
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nothing more than what the 1rst man feared ... the unknown! no real progress since that time.
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Plato wrote that famous allegory of the cave (now, this is pretty much by memory, and probably infected with other similar tales from other places - but It's very much worth reading, though, and just a few pages long )
The gist was more or less that men who lived inside a cave, and had never visited the exterior, watched and worshiped the shadows projected on the wall. Then one man was taken outside, and would first be overwhelmed by the daylight, and try to go back inside, but after getting used to it, he would realize his present and previous condition, and would accept the objects outside as reality, and the shadows as, well... shadows. But he could not convince his former peers to follow him in this belief, as they were very certain that their vision was very true, and that travelling had made him crazy
Now, what Plato didn't say was that one of the main occupations outside the cave was to make shadowplays and watch the insiders flip out
Sometimes we can't avoid going through a certain place to get somewhere. But we do not have to linger 'round.
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) The gist was more or less that men who lived inside a cave, and had never visited the exterior, watched and worshiped the shadows projected on the wall. Then one man was taken outside, and would first be overwhelmed by the daylight, and try to go back inside, but after getting used to it, he would realize his present and previous condition, and would accept the objects outside as reality, and the shadows as, well... shadows. But he could not convince his former peers to follow him in this belief, as they were very certain that their vision was very true, and that travelling had made him crazy
Now, what Plato didn't say was that one of the main occupations outside the cave was to make shadowplays and watch the insiders flip out
Sometimes we can't avoid going through a certain place to get somewhere. But we do not have to linger 'round.
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yes, Plato would have supported Eugenics. his writings are blueprints for much that has followed.
oh, please mr expert! SAVE ME!
there's no problem except for a bunch of psychopaths who are running things. deviants make a deviant society and then call the normal ones(those that oppose the psychos) deviants.
there is plenty of room for humans AND the rest of the creatures, but even without humans, most species become extinct. i have love for ALL of the creatures(i even hate killing roaches even though i will murder them if they find their way into my house. i also pity the animals i eat), but i love the creature that i'm a part of(humanity) more. that is NORMAL and HEALTHY. the nature that is out of balance is strictly the work of the shepherds. who IS it who advertises the automobiles and then calls us all bad because we do as we're told and buy them? who packs us into cities that ARE overcrowded and make our world look doomed and then blame us for doing as we're told? it's disgusting to see a hypocrite moan for the death of a whale or frog or even a puppy and then cheer the death of hundreds or thousands(or even millions) of people. that is the sign of a VERY defective human, one who hates himself so much that he hates humans over all creatures.
oh, please mr expert! SAVE ME!
there's no problem except for a bunch of psychopaths who are running things. deviants make a deviant society and then call the normal ones(those that oppose the psychos) deviants.
there is plenty of room for humans AND the rest of the creatures, but even without humans, most species become extinct. i have love for ALL of the creatures(i even hate killing roaches even though i will murder them if they find their way into my house. i also pity the animals i eat), but i love the creature that i'm a part of(humanity) more. that is NORMAL and HEALTHY. the nature that is out of balance is strictly the work of the shepherds. who IS it who advertises the automobiles and then calls us all bad because we do as we're told and buy them? who packs us into cities that ARE overcrowded and make our world look doomed and then blame us for doing as we're told? it's disgusting to see a hypocrite moan for the death of a whale or frog or even a puppy and then cheer the death of hundreds or thousands(or even millions) of people. that is the sign of a VERY defective human, one who hates himself so much that he hates humans over all creatures.
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its also disgusting to see, as it is, the probably most armed population within a "country" which probably does more damage in the world than any, doing less good than people packing flowers. Even if they know their leaders is shit.
its a shame people dont realize they are a citizen of the earth, rather than a citizen of a defined fucking border.
its a shame people dont realize they are a citizen of the earth, rather than a citizen of a defined fucking border.
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Borders are artificial. They exist only so that governments can hold power. I'm against nationalism because it pits countries against each other and divides people.
Eugenics favors one group of people over another. I wish everyone would stop making so many babies regardless of race, creed or nationality. Population control does not equal eugenics so stop being so dramatic about it Gary. We need to consider the environment more and not just our biological urge to pass down our genes.
Eugenics favors one group of people over another. I wish everyone would stop making so many babies regardless of race, creed or nationality. Population control does not equal eugenics so stop being so dramatic about it Gary. We need to consider the environment more and not just our biological urge to pass down our genes.
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i am just waiting for the non-gun-control part of the world to fucking strike a point and save the world. they have the means, time is due, so what are you fucking waiting for?
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that's some heavy-duty troll rhetoric. personally, the last thing i want to do is shoot ANYbody, besides, it's not necessary. the populace carries out the controller's will. better to stop the controller than to kill his often naively innocent minions.
as to the US armed forces, they work for the UN. why is one of the "doomsday seed banks" in Norway? it seems like your government supports the agenda too. that doesn't make me want to rail against Norwegians. most of them are good people, just like in America.
Braincell, if you support the eugenics agenda(which is about evolution through BREEDING and genetics not just one group over another), you are doing their work.
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oh yes, im trolling, ive been away for too long! (i went to greece by the way), and for the fuck of it:
- If you are given the right to bear arms for a certain reason (to keep it short, in an earth-citizen point of view) and if your goverment is totally shit (which is pretty much globally agreed upon), why arent you using your rights?
-as to why the seedbank is located in norway: well, im not saying we are totally innocent when it comes to ruling trhe world. we are a strong 4 million people (about 15 of us in an even reach of the seedbank) ready to strike with our 20.000 strong army at anytime, anywhere ( as long as NATO or EU brings us too much pressure in the axis of evil kenivel)
(or it could be based on the fact that we are a rich fucking coutry, having place to spare in a temperature stable enviroment, did you read about or oil savings beeing spent in shitty locations/buisnisses?
If you dont want to shoot anybody, wtf are you doing with guns? besides burglaries, isnt the point with guns (according to your constitution) to bring a goverment that is making a piss of the rest of the world?
Fuck america. Fuck norway, fuck EU, Fuck it all. You are a fucking citizen of the world.
- If you are given the right to bear arms for a certain reason (to keep it short, in an earth-citizen point of view) and if your goverment is totally shit (which is pretty much globally agreed upon), why arent you using your rights?
-as to why the seedbank is located in norway: well, im not saying we are totally innocent when it comes to ruling trhe world. we are a strong 4 million people (about 15 of us in an even reach of the seedbank) ready to strike with our 20.000 strong army at anytime, anywhere ( as long as NATO or EU brings us too much pressure in the axis of evil kenivel)
(or it could be based on the fact that we are a rich fucking coutry, having place to spare in a temperature stable enviroment, did you read about or oil savings beeing spent in shitty locations/buisnisses?
If you dont want to shoot anybody, wtf are you doing with guns? besides burglaries, isnt the point with guns (according to your constitution) to bring a goverment that is making a piss of the rest of the world?
Fuck america. Fuck norway, fuck EU, Fuck it all. You are a fucking citizen of the world.
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the guns(if i even had one) are strictly to maintain the last vestiges of my independance.
i never claimed a gun, just my right to have one if they exist at all.
i recognize no world government. i am NOT a citizen of the world, though i AM a human being who lives here. i still reserve the rights of a free man.
i WOULD take up arms, if taking up arms would solve the present predicament. it may happen God help us all, but the current arrangement could work if we could just get these guys to follow thir own rules. the problem is that the jerks in "my government"(as though i need to be governed, the name government is the first clue) work for some other global jerks who are too far away from me to shoot. you can help me out, a bunch of them are nearer to you.
actually, "my government" is the EXACT reason you enjoy a nearly democratic existance at all. they're the only reason you are not a serf in a hard monarchy. the government isn't shit, it's quite workable. the cretins who have overrun it are shit. i'd rather put them in jail than shoot them.
i may spew rhetoric from time to time, but you are pretty grouchy.
oh, and you have ONE of the doomsday vaults because those wonderful guys you're always sticking up for really have contingencies to kill everything and then replenish the earth as they see fit, just like they experiment with cross species genetics and particle cannons that can create black holes, and, the people who run Norway are the same people that run the other lands and they set you up to be a "rich fucking coutry, having place to spare in a temperature stable enviroment"(it couldn't be that love of the Aryan "root race" that Blavatsky loved to prattle on about). look, Norway and even the USA are NOT relatively rich countries. the Congo is a rich country. Mexico is a super rich country. there are rich PEOPLE in Norway, because of well, shipping and other things, some nice and others not so nice(large amounts of cash rarely come from nice)....
just because you don't know what i'm getting at, or you disagree with me is no reason to get pissed off, though.
....and i hope you enjoyed your nice vacation.
i never claimed a gun, just my right to have one if they exist at all.
i recognize no world government. i am NOT a citizen of the world, though i AM a human being who lives here. i still reserve the rights of a free man.
i WOULD take up arms, if taking up arms would solve the present predicament. it may happen God help us all, but the current arrangement could work if we could just get these guys to follow thir own rules. the problem is that the jerks in "my government"(as though i need to be governed, the name government is the first clue) work for some other global jerks who are too far away from me to shoot. you can help me out, a bunch of them are nearer to you.
actually, "my government" is the EXACT reason you enjoy a nearly democratic existance at all. they're the only reason you are not a serf in a hard monarchy. the government isn't shit, it's quite workable. the cretins who have overrun it are shit. i'd rather put them in jail than shoot them.
i may spew rhetoric from time to time, but you are pretty grouchy.
oh, and you have ONE of the doomsday vaults because those wonderful guys you're always sticking up for really have contingencies to kill everything and then replenish the earth as they see fit, just like they experiment with cross species genetics and particle cannons that can create black holes, and, the people who run Norway are the same people that run the other lands and they set you up to be a "rich fucking coutry, having place to spare in a temperature stable enviroment"(it couldn't be that love of the Aryan "root race" that Blavatsky loved to prattle on about). look, Norway and even the USA are NOT relatively rich countries. the Congo is a rich country. Mexico is a super rich country. there are rich PEOPLE in Norway, because of well, shipping and other things, some nice and others not so nice(large amounts of cash rarely come from nice)....
just because you don't know what i'm getting at, or you disagree with me is no reason to get pissed off, though.
....and i hope you enjoyed your nice vacation.
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It's not a good idea to have ordinary citizens enforcing the law by the use of deadly arms. I don't feel protected by them; quite the contrary. You never known when one will go mad and just start shooting. Just because most gun owners are safe and law abiding doesn't make up for the ones who are not and in such a large nation, their numbers are substantial. I also don't agree with the democrats that hunting with guns should be allowed. It sends the message to people that guns are not bad.
I see a pattern here. When someone disagrees with another member and they have no valid retort, they call him a troll and hope it will shut him up. That is totally infantile. Just argue your point. You don't have to resort to hurling a nerdy definition of what you think someone is. We are all people. Using stupid geek jargon doesn't make you appear more intelligent. It really doesn't. Surely you can come up with a more creative insult than that!
I see a pattern here. When someone disagrees with another member and they have no valid retort, they call him a troll and hope it will shut him up. That is totally infantile. Just argue your point. You don't have to resort to hurling a nerdy definition of what you think someone is. We are all people. Using stupid geek jargon doesn't make you appear more intelligent. It really doesn't. Surely you can come up with a more creative insult than that!
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nobody ever called for roving packs of frothing rabid gun toting vigilantes.
anyone can go crazy anytime, anyplace and with deadly force, with or without guns, believe me. it's a fools paradise to feel safe just because the guns and sharp sticks have been confiscated. i don't need many, if any, tools to kill someone if i set my mind to it...
as to the troll thing, i still see next to nothing as a brother human being, not an enemy. he is needling me(by his own admission) and i am just responding in kind. of course, if he is my enemy, then he is trolling and stalking, etc....
i'll say it again, even though it's off topic. if guns are BAD, then get rid of ALL of them. no police guns, no soldier guns and no guns for me. if everyone else including bad guys can have then, then don't deny them to good and law abiding citizens and commoners. we are NOT wards of the state. we are free humanity, the state works for us.
anyone can go crazy anytime, anyplace and with deadly force, with or without guns, believe me. it's a fools paradise to feel safe just because the guns and sharp sticks have been confiscated. i don't need many, if any, tools to kill someone if i set my mind to it...
as to the troll thing, i still see next to nothing as a brother human being, not an enemy. he is needling me(by his own admission) and i am just responding in kind. of course, if he is my enemy, then he is trolling and stalking, etc....
i'll say it again, even though it's off topic. if guns are BAD, then get rid of ALL of them. no police guns, no soldier guns and no guns for me. if everyone else including bad guys can have then, then don't deny them to good and law abiding citizens and commoners. we are NOT wards of the state. we are free humanity, the state works for us.
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I'm not afraid of the police or the military just the guy living next to me and if I have the right to buy a gun, so does he so the answer is no neighbors should be allowed to own guns.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=052S1yg-zR0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c468LNAQ ... re=related
it's not hard to find examples...
it's more sorry when you fear your neighbors, people that you should have built a relationship with....they can easily kill you or maim you without a gun. be afraid. be very afraid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c468LNAQ ... re=related
it's not hard to find examples...
it's more sorry when you fear your neighbors, people that you should have built a relationship with....they can easily kill you or maim you without a gun. be afraid. be very afraid.
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We could go on and on about this as we have before. Needless to say I agree with the EU on this as I do on many matters. I probably should be living there.