Fires set by farmers to clear brushes envelop Buenos Aires.
That's all good according to Gary.
The smoke choked the Argentine capital, closing roads, the port and airport, as the pall reached Montevideo, the Uruguayan capital, 140 miles away.
“There's 70,000 hectares (270 sq miles) of fields on fire in the Paraná river delta” north of Buenos Aires, said Florencio Randazzo, the Interior Minister, referring to an area the size of Cape Town.
The smoke filled hospitals with people complaining of respiratory and eye problems and for a few hours closed two main highways.
In southern Uruguay, east of Buenos Aires across the River Plate, the smoke caused delays at three airports. Mr Randazzo blamed the fires on cattle ranchers in Buenos Aires province, north of the capital, who were renewing their grassland. He said firefighters were coping with 300 grassland blazes, some of which needed aircraft support.
The National Institute of Farming and Livestock Technology blamed the fires on farmers clearing land for soya bean crops, Argentina's chief export. Mr Randazzo said they would face charges for environmental harm and damaging health. (AFP)
garyb wrote:
CO2 IS LIFE ON EARTH!
THE MORE CO2, THE MORE LIFE!
CO2 LEVELS ARE AT THE EARTH'S HISTORIC LOW!
HUMAN CO2 ACCOUNTS FOR LESS THAN 1% OF ALL GREENHOUSE GASSES!
IN THE PAST CO2 LEVELS HAVE BEEN 14-15X THE PRESENT LEVELS WITH THE SAME AVERAGE GLOBAL TEMPERATURE!
etc, etc, etc.
i still don't get the connection. i don't think that burning down the rainforest and clearcutting is a good idea. i don't understand what that has to do with CO2, nobody is getting sick from CO2. there's a lot more in that smoke than CO2....it's true that CO2 alone is toxic to humans, but that's the beauty of the earth's systems, the plants LOVE it and release lots of life giving O2 in return. it'd take a lot more CO2 than that to make any troubles for anybody, most or ALL of the O2 would have to be displaced for that to happen.
i'm disappointed in you, i thought you would bring a higher level of reasoning to the table, but then again, maybe not.
CO2 is one of the "greenhouse gasses that has the LEAST effect. water vapor is number 1. one large volcano eruption spews more CO@ than all human activity combined. human "greenhouse gas" production is less than 1% of all greenhouse gasses, a literal drop in the bucket and you are still not explaining how planets further away from the sun than the earth with no SUVs present have shown identical climate change to earth.
to top all that off, there's no way that a "carbon tax" will do ANYTHING to help the situation, so what? what?
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i shouldn't show YOU anything. the information is out there if you wish. i've shown it before, but you've ignored it. i'll just repeat my info and you repeat yours and people can do their own research.
if people don't do it, or if they just they wish it, they can have the distopic future they deserve....
stardust wrote:I am sure there is scientific evidence from any lobby.
Especially in the US there are plenty of well paid scientists that will find out everything that serves the oil industry interests.
Interesting enough this serves the comfort of the dumbed masses as well as the greedy industry.
interesting that the young Rothschild, the heir to all those oil profits(they own all oil production through loans and obligations owed their banking interests) and OILMEN like Al Gore(his family owns one of the biggest of oil companies) are at the forefront of the panic......
THE MAIN THING THEY HAVE IN MIND IS COMPLETE CONTROL OVER EVERY HUMAN THROUGH TAXATION AND WORLD CORPORATE(FASCIST) "GOVERNANCE".
BingoTheClowno wrote:UN is a global organization with no industrial interests. Besides that, ice cores don't lie and are not affiliated with any political party.
ice cores prove that the earth has had mostly higher levels of CO2 historicly and that temperatures have NOT followed the CO2 trends. in the short term, temps are following CO2, but not over the loing haul....
the UN may have no such interests on the surface, but it is a major seat of power, and so is subject to massive corruption. those interests are certainly served by the UN. there have been plenty of documented scandals to prove this including UN protected child protitution/slave rings in places like Kosovo. it's not the UN itself to be concerned about, but rather those that exercise power through it.
garyb wrote:
ice cores prove that the earth has had mostly higher levels of CO2 historicly and that temperatures have NOT followed the CO2 trends. in the short term, temps are following CO2, but not over the loing haul....
BingoTheClowno wrote:Again, what I mean by scientific sources is internationally recognized scientific sources, not retarded conspiratorial web sites.
(and please leave out the Rotschilds, Rockefelers, Henry Ford, HG Wells, Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones and other conspiratorial crap out of it )
why do you want to be that way?
the sources on that site are all listed and researchable and they are ALL internationally recognized and vetted.
no, i won't leave those guys out just because YOU say so. they are the real catalysts in the system. they own the capital AND the resources, so no discussionis complete without measuring their influence.
garyb wrote:
ice cores prove that the earth has had mostly higher levels of CO2 historicly and that temperatures have NOT followed the CO2 trends. in the short term, temps are following CO2, but not over the loing haul....
The scientific source of this claim please!
already given. it is a well known method of discrediting to simply repeat a request for the source as though it hadn't been given when it has. the weak minded will just accept the bullies assertation and will not check the documentation to see who is prevaricating. i'm not moved by the technique, however.
garyb wrote:
no, i won't leave those guys out just because YOU say so. they are the real catalysts in the system. they own the capital AND the resources, so no discussionis complete without measuring their influence.
Whatever
I just want to help you, to change your image of a paranoic conspiracy idiot.
garyb wrote:
ice cores prove that the earth has had mostly higher levels of CO2 historicly and that temperatures have NOT followed the CO2 trends. in the short term, temps are following CO2, but not over the loing haul....
The scientific source of this claim please!
already given. it is a well known method of discrediting to simply repeat a request for the source as though it hadn't been given when it has. the weak minded will just accept the bullies assertation and will not check the documentation to see who is prevaricating. i'm not moved by the technique, however.
