Problems with the DP965LT, which board to try next?

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Problems with the DP965LT, which board to try next?

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Sorry for starting another 'which motherboard' thread, but I'm hoping you helpful people can give me advice in a difficult situation: in November I upgraded from my previous Athlon XP 2100+ system to a quad core intel system, and for motherboard I got the Intel DP965LT, since that was recommended here. However, I ran into some problems (I'm the third guy in the thread complaining about similar problems). After a couple of months of trying all kinds of things (and running a couple of extremely frustrating recording and mixing sessions with repeated crashes), I'm finally out of ideas, and I guess my only choice is to try another motherboard in the hope that my problems would go away.

Based on the recommendations here, ignoring the P965 chipset for obvious reasons, it would seem that the P35 chipset is the best choice. Since I would like 3 PCI slots, in case I have the money one day to buy more scope cards, and I need firewire, as I have the possibility to occasionally borrow a Powercore FW for bigger projects, my choices seem quite narrow. One option that seems to fit the prescription is the Abit IP35. What do you think? I read in another thread that the current MV test record is held by an Abit IP35 Pro, is there any difference to that board except for the peripherals? Any other suggestions?

One thing that worries me with the IP35 is that it also has an Intel chipset, so it's relatively close to what I'm having problems with. On the other hand, I guess the intel chipsets come highly recommended generally?

Thanks for your help,
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Re: Problems with the DP965LT, which board to try next?

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Alho wrote:Intel DP965LT
Hi Alho,

I have a DP965LT in my box. It runs perfectly with my cards.

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Abit sometimes has problems with quality control, but when you get a good one they are not bad at all.

maybe your intel board is defective?
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the motherboard DEFINITELY works.
the p35 chipset does work very, very well however. it's possible you have a bad board, or that some other component is at fault. if i was there, i'd be happy to help, unfortunately it seems you need to shotgun the problem...

you had mentioned a broken capacitor. this speaks to damage.

if you have slow response combined with freezing, you have something running in the backround stealing cpu cycles AND/OR irq sharing. if your scope card shares an irq with ANYTHING but a couple of system processes, you will have a problem 100%. if you have a usb controller sharing an irq, you will have to disable it. if you have just one card in that computer, changing the slot can fix your problem. with multiple cards, you will need to disable a number of onboard devices.
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I have shifted from an Intel DP9365LT to a Lanparty P35 from DFI because bios was too simple (not enough tweak options) and i am really happy with it ! Expensive but evrything is very stable too (I was happy with intel!+soniccore stuff).

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Yes, I know that the DP965LT should work. I'd just like to find a way to tell it to my computer :P

There was an IRQ sharing problem at first, but that's settled now, the pulsar is not sharing it's IRQ with anything, but it still crashes, though slightly less often, perhaps (IRQ sharing with the motherboard audio definitely caused more frequent crashing, but that's disabled now).

The pulsar is now sitting in PCI slot 2.

As for the heat problem, I was thinking about that too since the IOCH runs normally at about 70 celsius according to the hardware monitor program, but there are still crashes even if I use a tabletop fan blowing to the open case of the computer, which cools at least all the motherboard components to about 40-50 celsius. Even opening the balcony door, which is about 3 meters from the computer, and cooling the computer way down (it was -7 celsius outside when I tried) didn't help (but I did catch a cold myself :roll:). I also tried a different video card with an active fan, since my passively cooled 8600GT might have been heating something up. No help.

The specific motherboard has been exchanged once already, since I also suspected a hardware fault with it (I bought the board from a store where a friend of mine is responsible for the warranty returns, and he let me exchange it based only on a suspicion). No help.

The disconnected capacitor on the pulsar has been re-soldered, but I suspected that perhaps the card has taken some other damage, so I re-built my previous computer, which's components I had luckily kept for the time being. I made one full song and ran the computer for about a day and a half with no crashes, so if there is some damage, then it's of a very tricky kind which doesn't manifest itself with my old motherboard (a Asus A7V333-X).

I've also tried a more powerful power supply. No help. Although now that I think about it, this was before the IRQ sharing was cleared...

Everything runs very smooth and nice in between the crashes...
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did you try running the computer without the pulsar in it for an extended period and see if it crashes?
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Yes, and in addition it doesn't crash when the pulsar is not used.
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I would try to install the pulsar in another computer (friend) and see what happens : may be your board takes the blame ? The Intel is indeed very simple and reliable so .... ?
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bill3107: I've already tried it with my old setup, and it works there, as I mentioned in above.
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no idea ... :(
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