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[sonolive]

hi dimitrios ,

if there is a bug (possible, but i don't think so) we will find it

but : what do you mean by threshold to the maximun ?

if you turn the treshold potentiometer to "full right" it means 0db ... so no compression,

the treshold pot works invert, i mean if you want to get a lower treshold, you need to turn it "left" (anticlockwise)

cheers
olive

[musurgio]

The above test was for the 160 DAS compressor.
Regarding the DASLA2 on the full opto setting and with compressor switch and using the same gain and peak reduction this is the most transparent compressor for full mixes I have ever heard !!!!!!!
Regards,
Dimitrios

[musurgio]

Use around 81 for both gain and peak !!
Regards,
Dimitrios

[musurgio]

Dear Olive, by saying fi\ull I mean to the left !
The threshold metering is almost all red there !!
Thank you
Regards,
Dimitrios

[sonolive]

ok thx for the report, i will check it !
is it the same in RMS compression mode ?

[musurgio]

Scope users you ought to yourself try out the demo LA2 from DAS using the suggested preset on a already mastered commercial track like Avrille "damn cold night" is it called like that ?, don't really know the title or any mastered commercial multi platinum track it can raise perceived loudness even more ! with transparency !!
Regards,
Dimitrios

[musurgio]

Dear Olive,
It is showing on the meters after the das compressor so it does not have to do with false metering on your device.
It is how the device works.
Your compressor works as a compressor with fantastic transparency but the final output on heavy compression where you want to limit the dynamic range of sound then the dynamic range remains somehow near its original headroom.
On the other side it is great to have a compressor type that retains the headroom but when I usually put compressors it is for this effect , to limit their dynamic range so it can come out of a mix even if you lower its output volume better than without compression.
Maybe if you use more ratio than the maximum you have then maybe this can be solved !
Thanks
Dimitrios

[sonolive]

dimitrios,
i have checked what you explained us but i don't see what you mean, sorry ...

can you tell me by mail : sonolive@wanadoo.fr

the exact issue with a screen capture if posible ?

thx again for support,
cheers
olive

[musurgio]

Dear Olive the test is simple.
Ratio full to the right output gain at 12 o 'clock,threshold around 10 o' clock attack relaese full to the left,
I use thses sttings to have around the same input and output volume of a ready mastered stereo track.
Now if you see the VU of your mixer where the outs of the compressor go you will see the meters showing around 8-10 db headroom still !!
I mean that with that heavy settings the output should not be more than 1-2 db's difference !!
Although you hear the distortion of the very fast release and attack with high threshold and ratio the output is still high in dynamics !!
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Dimitrios

[musurgio]

Dear Olive after testing and testing I am discovering a new quality in your compressors.
It somejow retains much of the dynamic range but still works as a compressor despite what meters sometimes show !!
It gives that compression effect but without loosing transparnecy and without squashing the sound.
Well if someone wants to do so maybe you could give more ratio if available...
Really maybe up till now we used only mediocre compressors and this is closer to real things !!
Thumps up !
Regards,
Dimitrios

[sonolive]

giving more ratio is a bit dangerous ... and the DAS 1610 is a compressor very close to analog mode ....
We are here (at DAS) BIG BIG fans of the DBX160 ... but who is not ???
as you mentioned it, it's a very musical plug ... like the DAS 2A that is simpler and molre intuitive to use ...

but this let me think that we could try and develop a very transparent limiter !!! but the 2A already have this function,
cheers
olive

[bill3107]

i have been using the 2A for few days now and it rocks; very intuitive and efficient like Vinco is !

i have just received the key from Ralf for the 1610 so i will be able to use the non-demo version now... I think this plug will help me to handle in a better way this kind of essential tool (but also complex). As for the sound... getting such an "analog" sound is always amazing on SCOPE... tahnk you DBX ...heu DAS

Thanks !

[Polarity]

Not intending to be rude, but then I would check one of Das' other EQ's.
The Poltek offers the very same quality as the stock 4 band eq, but...

Well I don't understand what u mean with "quality", but what I meant was the "colour" this EQ gives to the sound I was using in my mix.
Dunno what kind of sounds you tried, but my ears work well enough to hear that what I achieve with the Polteq is not achievable at all with the standard/stock eq. No way.
Perhaps I should try with a second standard eq put in serial after the first one?

Or wait for their new eq, just announced in another thread in this forum

Thanks for the indication, I found the announcement, : but I didn't understand if it's another emulation or just a new EQ type.

Sorry mate, you don't know what you're talking about
I think it's right to say that the plug mostly is used to enlarge the attack...search for a recent thread that explaines the use of it very well

Maybe I don't know or maybe yes, I do indeed.
Perhaps, not being english born, I wasn't able to expose my thinking.
Before writing my post, I followed the links here suggested, found the article, and listend also to demo files of the Transient Designer.
Simply I read and heard ways of utilisations of this pluigin that don't follow my taste or my need.
I heard just files that practically compress drums (giving punch yes, but smoothing too much their edges, while instead I want to have their attack transient enahnced), and files where this plugin eliminates ambient from drum loops samples making them dry.
And I don't use so much drum loops or by the way when I do I don't need don't or care to rebuild their ambience so much.
Probably for my needings the Transient Attack would be enough and costs much less, while Transient Designer costs too much for the use I'd do with it.
It's not an absolute problem of money, just a realtive one: I always try to spend well my money and not just throw them away.

For now however this two plugins are on bottom of my list: more important are EQ (with character and colour), and Compressor, and Limiter in UAD style/concept.

All the best
Polarity


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[hubird]

Not intending to be rude, but then I would check one of Das' other EQ's.
The Poltek offers the very same quality as the stock 4 band eq, but...

Well I don't understand what u mean with "quality", but what I meant was the "colour" this EQ gives to the sound I was using in my mix.

Even the colour of the sound is captured by a phase cancelation test
But I won't step into this again, as there fell some hard words in the past about this subject.
Do a search on Poltek/phase cancelation to judge by yourself, or pm me if you need to.
All I'm saying is, if you wanne get yourself a DAS EQ, then I'd take another one than the Poltek for the mony
cheers.

[sonolive]

hubird !!

Does this mean you are going again in this bad way ???
don't forget you wrote publically you wouldnot any more ...
cheers
olive

[hubird]

But I won't step into this again, as there fell some hard words in the past about
this subject. Do a search [...] by yourself.

Can't you read??

I feel free to mention insights, stuff and facts, according to the principle 'you create plugs, we comment them'

I welcom technical and informative contributions from your side tho

Be thankfull anyway, I recommended your other eqs...or did you occasionally misread the last sentense in my post above?

cheerzzz.

[Wired]

polarity watch this guy hubrid, he's not right, the poltek has more circuitry than stock , he's a brick short.

[hubird]

who's hubrid?

[erminardi]

[John Cooper]

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