Sonicore board options for CME controllers

synthetic88 · Post by **synthetic88** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:51 am

It looks like CME announced an option board for their controller keyboards at Messe that runs Sonicore (trying to get used to saying that) synths. It runs Minimax, Lightwave, B2000 and Vocodizer, and lists for US$369.

http://www.cme-pro.com/products-list/product-asx.html

Post by **irrelevance** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:07 am

Fantastic news!

CME controllers seem to be of a good standard and they offer good buying options. It's a no brainer if you already own a compatible board.

kybernaut_01 · Post by **kybernaut_01** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:26 am

As far as I know, this has nothing to do with SonicCore but rather with InDSP!

I could be wrong, though...

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:59 am

I think I'd rather spend money on the new Solaris hardware synth.

Miikka · Post by **Miikka** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:16 pm

Waldorf's Nano board got competition...

Just wondering how much polyphony you really can get with that?

But still i would like to see SonicCore and InDSP to develope something completly new in a plugin field than just recycling all the old stuff..

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:59 pm

thats funny, I just looked into buying a CME keyboard as a new midi controller over

johnbowen · Post by **johnbowen** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:46 pm

kybernaut_01 wrote:As far as I know, this has nothing to do with SonicCore but rather with InDSP!

I could be wrong, though...

This is a product from inDSP....it is also available with another keyboard controller, but I've forgotten the name....

john b.

husker · Post by **husker** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:27 pm

so who 'owns' Minimax, Lightwave, B2000 and Vocodizer...SonicCore or inDSP?

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:08 pm

My assumption was that inDSP owns the technology, and SonicCore has a license to use it. I could be wrong though so feel free to correct me

johnbowen · Post by **johnbowen** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:03 pm

Both companies own the technology - simple as that.

john b.

husker · Post by **husker** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:42 pm

Doesn't sound very simple

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:06 pm

stardust wrote:So is it an ASB in the CME case or is there more integration (USB, midi assignment etc) ?

I'm wondering too...I'm completely out of analog audio inputs in my system, and I'm wondering if the audio can go over USB?

I have a UF keyboard, and this looks like a great way to get extra MiniMax/etc. polyphony without buying an ASB (I'd get the Pro-12 first, anyway). I once mapped the sliders and knobs on my UF to MiniMax on Scope, and it was lots of fun -- so I already know they're a great match!

Shayne

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:49 am

looks similar to the solaris design

although fewer and cheaper looking knobs.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:52 am

I am getting a kick out of this controller from CME. Friends of mine have the UF8's, and UF6's w/ Firewire / USB audio. They seem to be low priced decent quality controllers. But this synth could considerably raise the prices, and quality of their controllers. Never thought I'd buy a " commie " synth !!

Let's face the facts guys. European, Japanese, and American made products are becoming tougher, and tougher to be competitive. Third World and Communist countries are becoming more and more integrated into capitalist economies. I wonder how many Creamware DSP cards were sold in China, Cuba, and North Korea ? I bet Kim Il Sung probably has a couple.

I look forward to buying hardware Solaris, but John refuses to take my money. All of our future depends on higher levels of education for our children, and constant foresight on sucsess as we face low cost, and sometimes governmant backed business's. I already have a Chinese QWERTY for my son to learn his numerals on. I make him earn his PSIII games !!

I still await a hardware controller similar to JBSD's Solaris, blanketed w/ LCD's so I can quit using these little shitty stickers w/ fluorescent backgrounds painted on them. SonicCore's future is sound IMHO. Expect Klangboxes of higher quality, and custom designed hardware synths based off of Black Fins, and the next Analog Devices products probably called Humpbacks to take me into retirement. The Solaris experiment MUST SUCSEED if we are to have a good future, so save your money for the fall, and jump in 4 the big win, buying Solaris is our ticket !! Don't forget, we are all part of a giant beta testing forum 4 SonicCore. Well let's get ready to rumble.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:29 am

scope4live wrote:... Expect Klangboxes of higher quality, and custom designed hardware synths based off of Black Fins, and the next Analog Devices products probably called Humpbacks to take me into retirement. ...

don't be irritated by (some) Blackfin's high clock rates - those are NOT number crunchers (a RISC Cpu plus a DSP core on one chip - a coop with IBM) and 'programs' are incompatible with the SHARC DSP line.

SonicCore was so gentle to show the sonic core of the Solaris on Messe, there are 6 DSPs of the 3rd Sharc generation on board - clocked 4 times the rate we're used to and with SIMD capabilities, which means a significantly improved DSP efficiency.
The latter feature could easily improve performance by an additional factor of at least 2 (where it applies - I'm not familiar with the specific coding, though)
This would give the Solaris hardware an (estimated) 50-60 'current DSP' equivalent, with the advantage of faster internal data transfer (all on one board)...

If they can match the price range that was discussed during Messe, then there's indeed a fair market chance for this instrument.

It's not the average Joe's cup of tea anyway - so few worries about messing with mass-marketers.
As a software Solaris owner I was pretty confused at first glance and only thought ...eh ???, but after understanding the basic button&dial switching it revealed to be as intuitive as can be, and was fun to explore.
There IS a significant learning step though, as there is driving a sportscar.
I've fiddled just a little bit with a limited prototype - when it's ready it will be synth heaven. Seriously.

cheers, Tom

Sandeep.inDSP · Post by **Sandeep.inDSP** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:04 am

This should give some nice idea about the Keyboard Module.

http://www.cme-pro.com/products-list/product-asx.html

husker · Post by **husker** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:45 am

Thanks Sandeep, welcome to planetz!

That's the same links as the beginning of this thread...got any exciting inDSP links for us

faxinadu · Post by **faxinadu** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:45 am

seems nice
i like the idea of expansions

Sandeep.inDSP · Post by **Sandeep.inDSP** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:39 am

The website is being redone at the moment. You can expect the 'exciting' inDSP links in a week or two. The past months have been very hectic and website was least on our minds. So much for the dull fare it served........

HUROLURA · Post by **HUROLURA** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:15 am

johnbowen wrote:
kybernaut_01 wrote:As far as I know, this has nothing to do with SonicCore but rather with InDSP!

I could be wrong, though...
This is a product from inDSP....it is also available with another keyboard controller, but I've forgotten the name....

john b.

I think this was the so called "Virtual ICON" which was shown during january NAMM show...

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