Power Sampler

[hubird]

I guess you can search the Devices forum for it, it's a planetz thingie

[fraz]

I guess you can search the Devices forum for it, it's a planetz thingie

Thanks Hubird, I haven't visited all the forums yet so I'm still trying to find my way round. I'm not sure if I can benefit from this or not but I'll let you know...

[kylie]

If I get an A16u and connect it to Power Sampler...I get an extra 16 I / O?...I think so....then I have 32 I / O...good!!!

a single a16u has 16 analog ins and 16 analog outs. if you want to double analog ports, double the number of a16u units.

the adat ports and the zlink ports of the a16u carry the same signal, coming from or going to the analog ports.

using two units with your ps means connecting one unit with 2 zlink cables to the zlink ports of the ps (one onboard, one on the expansion), and the other unit to the adat ports of the expansion.
only that way you have 32 unique, independent I/O. plus the analog stereo on the board itself, of course

if it's still not clear, I maybe should draw a picture?

-greetings, markus-.

[fraz]

Hi,

I'm up to speed on the I/O options for the Power Sampler card, now I've just been reading through my Creamware manual and have seen the Z-Link plate which looks interesting.

This has two Z-Link connections and a normal ADAT connection. So am I right to assume that the Z- Link A and B can connect two A16u?

Is this Z-LInk card something that can connect to my Pulsar 2 Classic. I'm sure I'll learn alot more about my SFP...

[kylie]

This has two Z-Link connections and a normal ADAT connection. So am I right to assume that the Z- Link A and B can connect two A16u?

not the way you want, as I assume. one single z-link port can carry 8 channels in and out, as it does with the luna i/o expansion box. if you want to connect an a16u to your system, you need 2 z-link cables for getting all 16 channels into your cw cards. thus, you can connect a single a16u to a single z-link i/o plate.

of course, you could connect 2 a16u to a single z-link plate, but still you would have 16 channels (8 from one and 8 from the other unit, which is obviously not what you desire).

you can also connect one single a16u to a luna equipped with the adat expansion (since you have 2 z-link ports, then).

Is this Z-LInk card something that can connect to my Pulsar 2 Classic. I'm sure I'll learn alot more about my SFP...

no. you have to remove the classic i/o plate to mount the z-link plate (as you would have to with the plus and adat i/o board).

-greetings, markus-

[fraz]

Thanks Kylie,

I think I misunderstood what this is.

[fraz]

OK Kylie,

I have become a little confused on the Power Sampler Z-Link connection. On the Power Sampler if I connected one A16u into the Z-Link connector does this automatically give me 16 in and out immediately without any further complication???

So one A16u connected into the one Z-Link connector on Power Sampler = 16 in and out with no further complication? - Is this correct?. Sorry, but just a tad confused exactly how it will work...

[hubird]

if the A16 behaves like my Luna boxe(s), and fraz confirmed this already, you have (just) 8 in/8out on one zLink connection
(I use two Luna boxes with two zLink connections, one for each box).

[fraz]

I've thought this through and feel happier again. I didn't realise that one Z-Link cable would only transfer 8 channels of audio.

I realise now that I need the expansion plate with the one z-link connector and the two lots of ADAT and have two A16u and connect one z-link cable into the z-link connection on the power sampler which sets me up for 8 channels z-link.

After this I need to connect another z-link cable from the A16u into the z-link connector on the expansion plate, this sets me up for another 8 channels so now we're up tp 16. This is where I misunderstood...so sorry for taking so long to understand... (so presumeably there are two connections for z-link on the A16u)

Now I need to connect the 2nd A16u via ADAT into the expansion plate and as Kylie pointed out there is the same signal at the ADAT connectors as there is at the z-link connectors. Now at this stage we're set for 32 channels audio via z-link and ADAT. Even if I'm not spot on I understand more now... ...

Onw question is why couldn't Creamware put a second z-link connector on the Power Sampler??? - Just a question, not a complaint.... ...so go eazy!!!

More questions may follow later.

[fraz]

if the A16 behaves like my Luna boxe(s), and fraz confirmed this already, you have (just) 8 in/8out on one zLink connection
(I use two Luna boxes with two zLink connections, one for each box).

Hi,

Is this Luna box just 8 in and out with AD and DA converters???

[hubird]

yes, I started with 8 guitarists, have 16 now

[fraz]

yes, I started with 8 guitarists, have 16 now

I take it the answer is yes then... ...I like your humour but I was asking a serious question... ...because I am / wasn't sure exactly what the Luna 24/96 box actually is. I don't have one but may get one in the future.

Thanks...

[fraz]

So just to be sure, the Luna 2496 box is pretty much the same as my Fostex VC-8 with eight ins and outs??? AD-DA converters?

[hubird]

sorry, left the house for some hours...
yes, I remember the Fostex convertors, they are a cheaper alternative.
But you're right, same design
The B-C-D-E outs of presets my electron machines distort on my Luna boxes, so the levels are not pro, I would like to have the A16 for that reason now.

[garyb]

fwiw,
bose corp bought a couple of a16s from me. their main reason for doing so was that the other inexpensive ad/das have phase problems channel to channel. only the rme and other more expensive boxes shared the a16's phase coherance. the luna box seems similarly well done.

[arela]

Luna box is 8 mono IN and 8 mono OUT by RCA (unbalanced)

[hubird]

thanks Gary, in fact very interesting information

[fraz]

The B-C-D-E outs of presets my electron machines distort on my Luna boxes

Hi,

Can you elaborate on this? - Is this a synth you have?

[hubird]

bad explanation it was

The Elektron MachineDrum drummodule and MonoMachine synth have separate outputs A, B, C, D, E and F.
Stereo output A-B contain the effects section.

The volume of the stereo master out, A-B, can be controlled directly by the master volume pot.

To adjust the volume of the other outputs you have to select the sounds first, which is ennoying when you step through
the presets, specially when, like on the MonoMachine, some are output on the 'separate' outs.

You get AD clipping on the lunaboxes for those outputs then.

I would like to have the levels of all Elektron gear Outs to match the inputs of the Luna boxes.

Therefor I would like to have a A16 (offering pro level handling) instead of the two Luna boxes

www.elektron.se