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Tau
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SPL Transient Designer and Cubase 4 EnvelopeShaper

Post by Tau »

Hello to all Zs!

I got my Cubase 4 update just a week ago (too soon, I know, but first impressions are very good), and I found out it's got a lot of new plug-ins that sound excellent, compared to the previous set, at least. One of the novelties is the EnvelopeShaper, which allows to tailor the attack, sustain and release of audio signals, which should be a bit like SPL's Transient Designer.

Now, I've been considering buying SPL's plug for SFP, especially to work inside the BX-digital (as suggested by Katano on another thread) and soften up some harsher sounds I sometimes find, but having missed the Christmas sale on that one, it's now back to €200... Besides, there's all this uncertainty about the future of Creamware (although I believe they'll be coming on STRONG, and why wouldn't they?), the BX is already a VST as well, and, most importantly, I'm saving up for Flexor II :D

So, before I spend some more, I'd like to ask if anyone has experience with both cub 4's EnvShp and SPL's TD, and if you think there is a significant difference in the quality of results between them.

So far, EnvShp seems to be quite good, both at the attack front, hunting plosives and harsh hat-attacks, and on the release end, allowing to "dry" up a sound with convincing results, it takes some time tweaking, but doesn't it all... And Steinberg always seemed to have some relation to SPL, they have SPL's DeEsser in Cubase, and the Spectralizer was also in Wavelab, so I'm thinking that maybe this IS Transient Designer in a Cubase skin...

But, of course, everything sounds better in Scope, and so, with this in mind, I humbly ask for experienced opinion. In the meantime, I will work to see if this EnvShp does the job or not.

Can anyone help?

Much peace,

T

P.S: Yesterday, I made my first recording with VDAT... I don't really know why, but the recorded audio sounds excellent! I'm not complaining, but it supercedes all my other recoring methods (via Asio back into sequencer, via Wave out into Wavelab, or routing Analog or ADAT into my RME and then Wavelab). Even when compared to internal renderings, the sound just flows a lot better!!! I tried it with Ableton, which can't be synced back to VDAT AFAIK, but I'm sure I'll be using this with Cubase 4 more and more. Many thanks for many threads helping on how to use this thing!

I'm happy :)
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Post by voidar »

If you could post two short files or something; one dry and one effected with the Cubase FX, I could try to match it with my SPL plug-in.

As for the future of Creamware. In regard to the current hardware, I think the future is looking pretty bright with all the new developements in plug-ins.

I kind of think you answered yourself. You obviously like how this hardware sounds. And it shouldn't crap out anytime soon.
Think of the hardware as programablel outboard equipment. There is no other DSP-solution for computers that operates real-time like this.
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