http://www.fastcompany.com/video/genera ... =422563006
Remember these guys?
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Counterparts
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Remember these guys?
I think I previously posted a link about the incredible touch screen tech these clever chaps have come up with. The potential musical applications..!
http://www.fastcompany.com/video/genera ... =422563006
http://www.fastcompany.com/video/genera ... =422563006
I only see a huge potential for neck and eye problems...
and do some workout of the shoulder muscles before trying the same...
it looks nice from a 'spectator' position (as the cam in the video shows), but after a couple of workdays with serious document processing in front of that type of workstation you'll be frazzeled out... completely...
the multipoint 'click' handling is a smart feature, though - yet it's not related to such displays by default.
Improvements in the ergonomic domain strangely lack in all major system supplier's software
cheers, Tom
enjoying the clean glass when window shopping...
and do some workout of the shoulder muscles before trying the same...
it looks nice from a 'spectator' position (as the cam in the video shows), but after a couple of workdays with serious document processing in front of that type of workstation you'll be frazzeled out... completely...
the multipoint 'click' handling is a smart feature, though - yet it's not related to such displays by default.
Improvements in the ergonomic domain strangely lack in all major system supplier's software
cheers, Tom
enjoying the clean glass when window shopping...
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Counterparts
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I dissagree.
One's (head's) distance from the screen is no different than if one were using the 'traditional' input devices such as a mouse and keyboard.
Furthermore, there are thousands upon thousands of cases of RSI resulting from keyboard and mouse use.
In my opinion, a more relaxed, natural use of the arms and hands would be a superior technique, ergonomically, than using artificial devices.
Royston
One's (head's) distance from the screen is no different than if one were using the 'traditional' input devices such as a mouse and keyboard.
Furthermore, there are thousands upon thousands of cases of RSI resulting from keyboard and mouse use.
In my opinion, a more relaxed, natural use of the arms and hands would be a superior technique, ergonomically, than using artificial devices.
Royston
I think the huge display and upright positioning are just for showing purposes. I'd find perfect for working a "simple" 24" screen lying flat on the table, much like any real desktop.
I work as a computer animator and I'm sure this technology would be so much enjoyable to work with. Grab a character's wrist with one finger, the elbow with the other, super fast and intuitive posing. Or grab and object with one finger, tweak it while simultaneously orbiting the viewport with the other... Right now, no matter the animation software, we spend more time switching than animating: switching selections, switching transform modes, switching, switching, switching.
I'll show it to my boss, he may buy us one when they are availeble
I work as a computer animator and I'm sure this technology would be so much enjoyable to work with. Grab a character's wrist with one finger, the elbow with the other, super fast and intuitive posing. Or grab and object with one finger, tweak it while simultaneously orbiting the viewport with the other... Right now, no matter the animation software, we spend more time switching than animating: switching selections, switching transform modes, switching, switching, switching.
I'll show it to my boss, he may buy us one when they are availeble
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Counterparts
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yes, the distance is similiar, but this construction covers your entire viewing area.Counterparts wrote:...One's (head's) distance from the screen is no different than if one were using the 'traditional' input devices ...
Attention (as moving parts changes the full screen area) is demanded by your full viewing angle, not just the center 45 to 60 degrees of the 'classic' screen.
You certainly know the rule of thumb to place a screen below the straight eye-line to prevent drying of the eyes.
I've had a 2nd peek into the movie - this is far from 'relaxed' working, since you tend to move items to where your natural focus is, and that's eye-height....In my opinion, a more relaxed, natural use of the arms and hands would be a superior technique, ergonomically, than using artificial devices...
To constantly rise an arm to the level shown in the video is a severe work - if you stand it for only one hour, you may consider yourself in excellent physical condition.
I don't 'defend' the traditional mouse/keyboard approach in any way - and there are methods shown in this video that can be very useful if applied under more ergonomic considerations.
The presentation is (of course) catching at a first glance, all looks smooth and easy, but it's completely irreal - a 'typical' designer's point of view, so to say...
cheers, Tom
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Counterparts
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True, but as miguel points out, the size of that sceren is really just a demo-thing. A 'production' model would be like a regualar, large TFT.astroman wrote: yes, the distance is similiar, but this construction covers your entire viewing area.
One wonders how any of the great artists ever managed to paint anything in that case!I've had a 2nd peek into the movie - this is far from 'relaxed' working, since you tend to move items to where your natural focus is, and that's eye-height.
To constantly rise an arm to the level shown in the video is a severe work - if you stand it for only one hour, you may consider yourself in excellent physical condition.
I've painted walls before. With a brush. For hours on end. At eye height. The odd cup of tea break is all that's required, IMO.
Anyways, I'd really like to have a go at one of these screens...I think they're a massive step in the right direction for HID tech.
Royston
i show you a link of similar 3d model i'm workin on :
http://www.emersonprocess.com/home/news ... _hires.jpg
What is funny is that the soft used to produce this model is now 30 years old (aveva-pdms).
And the guyz with who i work (15 to 25 years experience) are still constructing this volumes at 80% with the text command line .
(i have not seen that everywhere but on the present project that's the case.)
writing mode for that application is far most efficient than any screen menu.
All the old school designers hates the new interfaces and are still using the old method.
i can't tell you wich IT language is used but basically if you want to create a box .
you write in a command line new box x100 Y100 Z100
you wanna move / move by x....
you want to rotate : rot90tonext etc...
if someone one day propose that new screens my team will still request a keyboard
http://www.emersonprocess.com/home/news ... _hires.jpg
What is funny is that the soft used to produce this model is now 30 years old (aveva-pdms).
And the guyz with who i work (15 to 25 years experience) are still constructing this volumes at 80% with the text command line .
(i have not seen that everywhere but on the present project that's the case.)
writing mode for that application is far most efficient than any screen menu.
All the old school designers hates the new interfaces and are still using the old method.
i can't tell you wich IT language is used but basically if you want to create a box .
you write in a command line new box x100 Y100 Z100
you wanna move / move by x....
you want to rotate : rot90tonext etc...
if someone one day propose that new screens my team will still request a keyboard
