Is there any way to reset the resource allocation?

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areptiledysfunction
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Is there any way to reset the resource allocation?

Post by areptiledysfunction »

OK.....my dreams have pretty much come true for what I want to do with my system right now. A big "thank you" to Garyb for going above and beyond today to help me get my head around a few things. I still have a few *issues* though and I think it's because I'm using an unorthodox cable length (24") between my card A which is in my mobo and the other two cards which are in a Magma.

I've got 64 ADAT sources feeding the STM 4986 with the direct outs sending to 40 channels of ADAT (5 x modules) which are then interfaced with another DAW for summing.

I've also got 8 of the 16 I/O from the A16U interfaced in Cubase SX as as external inserts for analog hardware.

I've got another ADAT I/O interfaced with an RME ADI4 DD which is sending/receiving AES signal from 4 x hardware reverbs which are being bussed to various tracks in the Creamware mixer and then returned to 4 x aux busses in the summing DAW.

The Scope system tells me that I'm out fo DSP resources when I try to patch any more devices. This may be because the long cable from card 1 to card 2 is restricting my STDM bus a bit. It would be nice to have a few more analog patch points, but it's not imperative because I can also strap analog gear across the inserts and aux busses of the summing DAW. I may also revert to a simpler STM mixer tomorrow and see if I can lighten things up a little bit.

If there is any way to "reset" the DSP allocation in the Creamware environment to maybe squeeze a little more out of it, that would be nice, but it's not a deal breaker. I'm pretty amazed that this system will do what it's already doing........and it's doing it (streaming a 40 track project in Cubase)SX at 3ms latency without even breathing hard. My old RME system would be running at 512- 1024K buffers minimum and would have probably crashed 10 times today doing what I'm doing. My hat is off to whoever wrote the Scope drivers. This system has been running nonstop for 10 hours and has been tortured a bit and hasn't crashed once.

Very stable. I had a few sleepless nights worrying about whether this new system would fill my needs (which are almost exclusively mixing), especially given the rather unorthodox routing/clocking scenario I use but it's coming through like a champ and I'm glad I made the switch.

:D
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Post by djmicron »

if i'm not wrong, scope4live solved a similar problem by setting the project as startup.
I don't know if it is good for your setup, but it is worth of a try.
areptiledysfunction
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Post by areptiledysfunction »

djmicron wrote:if i'm not wrong, scope4live solved a similar problem by setting the project as startup.
I don't know if it is good for your setup, but it is worth of a try.
Hmmm...this sounds like a good idea...allocate maximum DSP resources at initilaization. I'll give it a try.

Thanks,
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Post by sonolive »

hi DJ,

Can you post the screen shot of your proect ?

is the 4896 mixer absolutely needed ? what the mixers do in this project ? monitoring only or channel strips ?

if you only need a "big routing" beetween analo and digital, do not use mixers !!!

waiting for the screen shot !
can you also capture the "dsp load" pannel wide open in order to see all the dsp !!!
cheers
olive
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Post by areptiledysfunction »

sonolive wrote:hi DJ,

Can you post the screen shot of your proect ?

is the 4896 mixer absolutely needed ? what the mixers do in this project ? monitoring only or channel strips ?

if you only need a "big routing" beetween analo and digital, do not use mixers !!!

waiting for the screen shot !
can you also capture the "dsp load" pannel wide open in order to see all the dsp !!!
cheers
olive
The 4896 is needed because I have to send 40 tracks to direct outs while also being able to send any one of them to one of 4 x separate auxes in the mixer to be patched into external hardware reverbs. There are no direct outs on the other mixer that will allow 48 inputs.or if there are, I missed them. I tried to insert a Vinco on one of the channels, but I get a message that I'm out of resources and it asks me if I want to reallocate. When I say yes, it reallocates and then the project won't sync to incoming ADAT timecode (and this is necessary because I'm automating the mix in both Cubase SX and in Paris so the Cubase DAW must slave to the Paris timeline) and the Cubase project won't pass audio. This is not a big deal for me. I like the Scope DSP plugins, but I've been mixing with UAD-1 plugs for years and I'm very comfortable with them. The incredible stability I'm getting with this Pulsar system is worth the price I paid, even without the DSP features. I'll use the Scope DSP in other ways, I'm sure.....especially for mastering jobs............... just not when mixing larger projects interfacing with another DAW for summing. The whole Scope routing window is full of modules and patch lines, but I'm used to that. The Paris system I'm sending the tracks to has a similar virtual patchbay and it's a mind boggling mess as well.

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Post by musurgio »

Your problem can be solved :
DJ,
This is not to be happening.
You have to configure the sequence Pulsar sees your cards.
You have to modify your cset.ini in your bin folder in pulsar (like Paris ini)
This happens when your pc sees the card in a way that it does not seem optimal for pci bandwith...

You open cset.ini with a notepad and enter in thery very first line above all the following:
[board0]
boardid=1
[board1]
boardid=0
[board2]
boardid=2

You have to change the boardid's until you find the optimum.
This Pulsar is too clever!!!

This will surely solve !!
hint:
If the dsp allocation window appears that means that you did NOT find the optimum sequence.

REgards,
Dimitrios
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Re: DJ

Post by sonolive »

musurgio wrote:
You open cset.ini with a notepad and enter in thery very first line above all the following:
[board0]
boardid=1
[board1]
boardid=0
[board2]
boardid=2
right, you can also achieve this in a hardware mode ... simply change the pci slots "hardwarely" ...

there is also another trick with teh mixer, you can allocate input channels on one or another board .

it is "board id" set in the option menu if i remember well,
cheers
olive
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