synthesizing a choir
- paulrmartin
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Also check out the Modular2's vocal filters, this can help quite a bit, and may be a little easier to get 'vocal' sounds from the Waldorf oscillators (you will need to find & use the right wavetable for this of course).
Here is an article on the web which might also help you a bit:
<a href=http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/mar01/arti ... sp>FORMANT SYNTHESIS</a> - luckily, the Vocal filters tend to help get the proper frequency ranges so the effect is easier to accomplish.
Hope that helps, this is a fun one!
Here is an article on the web which might also help you a bit:
<a href=http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/mar01/arti ... sp>FORMANT SYNTHESIS</a> - luckily, the Vocal filters tend to help get the proper frequency ranges so the effect is easier to accomplish.
Hope that helps, this is a fun one!
- kensuguro
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Here's a great link
http://www.helsinki.fi/hum/hyfl/projekt ... t_eng.html
Lots of formant charts to play with.
http://www.helsinki.fi/hum/hyfl/projekt ... t_eng.html
Lots of formant charts to play with.
- paulrmartin
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- kensuguro
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Some more strange toys if you're interested:
http://fonsg3.hum.uva.nl/paul/
THE praat analysis/synthesis engine, free, and is available for most platforms. Very high end analysis tool.
It does some VERY funky things, like totally strip a vocal of its formant data.. and stuff like that. Think about it.. it's like chopping off your head, and just listening to the glottis vibrate. Amazing! (and I was thinking of keeping this trick under my sleeves!)
So you can analyse your own formant with this, and then implement it in mod2 for your own customized choir. :> Good luck. I still haven't had the time to explore this software. It's VERY complex.
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http://fonsg3.hum.uva.nl/paul/
THE praat analysis/synthesis engine, free, and is available for most platforms. Very high end analysis tool.
It does some VERY funky things, like totally strip a vocal of its formant data.. and stuff like that. Think about it.. it's like chopping off your head, and just listening to the glottis vibrate. Amazing! (and I was thinking of keeping this trick under my sleeves!)
So you can analyse your own formant with this, and then implement it in mod2 for your own customized choir. :> Good luck. I still haven't had the time to explore this software. It's VERY complex.
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- kensuguro
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I'm trying to keep myself from going into the business of vocal modeling again.. But does anyone know of sources that tell you how the glottis vibration changes as the singer changes pitch? This is right where my research stopped, cuz I can't find any information on it.
Ah well, someday, I'll continue my research. I wish you good luck! I'd be glad to share my findings about the human voice. You'd be surprised at how many linguists are interested in voice synthesis... and so little music people!!
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Ah well, someday, I'll continue my research. I wish you good luck! I'd be glad to share my findings about the human voice. You'd be surprised at how many linguists are interested in voice synthesis... and so little music people!!
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- paulrmartin
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Ken, this is great!!!!THE praat analysis/synthesis engine, free, and is available for most platforms. Very high end analysis tool.
It does some VERY funky things, like totally strip a vocal of its formant data.. and stuff like that. Think about it.. it's like chopping off your head, and just listening to the glottis vibrate. Amazing! (and I was thinking of keeping this trick under my sleeves!)
thanks a lot!
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And this one, also by DeFeX!!
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Just a reminder.. In case you haven't checked out my post in Mod forum, I've found an equation that roughly estimates frequency values in MID units (0-127). You may want to use it, if you're going to do FFT analysis, and implementing that as a bank of filters in Mod2. Also, as a general guideline, as I've learned from making the vocoder, the characteristics of the human voice are concentrated in the 160-6000 zone. So, if you want to convert from FFT filters, make sure you have lots of filters in that area. And then leave a few for the sibillances. (I guess you might already know that)
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