Ok, update here: I moved the boards around a bit, cleaned them with that serious kind of alcohol and also put the Delta 1010 in another slot.
And right now it is working, although I have not tried it with Cubase yet. I won't say that everything is solved but I got it running with me tweaking around loading stuff and having constant audio running through ADAT sources for over 1 hour and no problems at all.
So, looking good right now but I will let you know what happens when Cubase's midi is involved.
Thank you all for helping!
Serious trouble getting Scope to work with Openlabs Neko64
Well, hi again 
...good to be here but frustration is high at the moment. As you have seen in this thread, the mobo for my neko64 was not that good for Scope. I am having HUGE problems and right now Scope is not really functioning at all (can load but in the meny-header there are just weird studd + hard and soft modules...no devices or anything!!!) so I am kinda pissed.
I have talked to Openlabs and the say that upgrading to their new mobo, Asus A8V, might help me a lot.
What's your opinions on that mobo?
...good to be here but frustration is high at the moment. As you have seen in this thread, the mobo for my neko64 was not that good for Scope. I am having HUGE problems and right now Scope is not really functioning at all (can load but in the meny-header there are just weird studd + hard and soft modules...no devices or anything!!!) so I am kinda pissed.I have talked to Openlabs and the say that upgrading to their new mobo, Asus A8V, might help me a lot.
What's your opinions on that mobo?
Another VIA board. What are they thinking?
Maybe it will be ok. All you can do is try it.
I just don't understand though why Neko are picking VIA boards after the long history of problems with VIA boards for audio applications.
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Maybe it will be ok. All you can do is try it.
I just don't understand though why Neko are picking VIA boards after the long history of problems with VIA boards for audio applications.
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Brotha'Man Dobermate,
You got style. I was going to buy the never released 88 note version from the boys in Texas until I heard of their choice of CPU/Chipset. At that time the Opteron/Tyan combo was the best choice. Chuck Ainley was sponsored by AMD and everything looked good until I got cold feet from the Tyan/VIA combo. Intel was sucking hind tit back then, and as OpenLabs has stocked up on AMD parts due to their recent price slashing thanks to Conroe CPU's, you see why that's their choice of circuitry. I wanted the Neko/ SFP very badly, and almost jumped in head first. Let me know of your sucsess with the product. BTW are you using a horizontal 32 bit riser for the DSP boards? I am curious if you are using a three way in conjunction with the M650 3 way video card.
You got style. I was going to buy the never released 88 note version from the boys in Texas until I heard of their choice of CPU/Chipset. At that time the Opteron/Tyan combo was the best choice. Chuck Ainley was sponsored by AMD and everything looked good until I got cold feet from the Tyan/VIA combo. Intel was sucking hind tit back then, and as OpenLabs has stocked up on AMD parts due to their recent price slashing thanks to Conroe CPU's, you see why that's their choice of circuitry. I wanted the Neko/ SFP very badly, and almost jumped in head first. Let me know of your sucsess with the product. BTW are you using a horizontal 32 bit riser for the DSP boards? I am curious if you are using a three way in conjunction with the M650 3 way video card.
Hey Jimmy! Well, yeah, the Neko's built like a tank and looks like a mothership but has the problems you mentioned (along with size issues for actually getting those boards in there).
Overall, I must say I like it quite much. It's just so fucking annoying not to be able to get the best out of it, namely a solid Scope environment. I hope to fix that soon.
Horizontal 32 bit riser? Not sure what you mean there, but you are right about the P650 projecting into 3 monitors (although one of them is the internal touchscreen).
I am very much into setting up a good home studio environment at the moment and am quite busy hammering up a new studio in the carport, but when that is done my Scope situation MUST be under control.
Overall, I must say I like it quite much. It's just so fucking annoying not to be able to get the best out of it, namely a solid Scope environment. I hope to fix that soon.
Horizontal 32 bit riser? Not sure what you mean there, but you are right about the P650 projecting into 3 monitors (although one of them is the internal touchscreen).
I am very much into setting up a good home studio environment at the moment and am quite busy hammering up a new studio in the carport, but when that is done my Scope situation MUST be under control.
I was under the assumption that to get the cards to fit, you would need to install them on a horizontal PCI riser card, which sticks up off of the PCI slot at a 90 degree angle, and they are made with an AGP + 2 x PCI, and even have PCI-X, and PCI-e extensions. Unless you can install the cards upright as I have in my rackmounted DAW's. At any rate, that combination of platforms and control surface is so bitchin' that I hope you sucseed. When companys like Open Labs try to do such great work like that, I only wish them and you sucsess. I will follow your postings, as anyone who has the balls, and taste in platforms that you have put together, deserves sucsess.
Keep Me Posted,
Keep Me Posted,
Oh YEEEEEEEES!
It seems to be working great now!!! I managed to get both my boards on the same IRQ, reinstalled EVERYTHING from scratch and...it's stable and a workhorse (at least for 2 nights in a row...programming and tweaking, leaving it for a couple of hours and then tweak it again...NO FREEZE!)!!!
Damn, the future's so bright I GOTTA wear shades!
Thanks for helping, guys! Next challenge: installing Cubase 4
It seems to be working great now!!! I managed to get both my boards on the same IRQ, reinstalled EVERYTHING from scratch and...it's stable and a workhorse (at least for 2 nights in a row...programming and tweaking, leaving it for a couple of hours and then tweak it again...NO FREEZE!)!!!
Damn, the future's so bright I GOTTA wear shades!
Thanks for helping, guys! Next challenge: installing Cubase 4
Hi dobermate and adrian! I'm also considering an open labs machine, and I'm happy to know of that at least a couple of scope users have got it working! Scope cards are always a bit tricky to configure at first, but once they're off, it's bliss...
I've been trying to get some info from open labs, but hey are kind of slow to answer, and there's not so much info on the website... So I thought maybe I could trouble you to share a bit more of your experience using Scope and Neko. I understand that both of you use a 15+6 DSP combination, is this due to space restrictions? Would 2x15 fit? Do you use Scope as you would in Windows XP, or does it interact with its custom OS in interesting ways? Would XTC plugs be accessible to Karsyn? And how exactly do the Mic Pre's connect to the audio card, I believe the Delta 1010 doesn't have pre's... Is it an internal audio connection?
Since I would mostly perform solo, I think the Miko would be a great workstation - its relatively portable, and it doesn't seem to be that expensive - but I wonder if it could ever fit a couple of Scope Pros, or even one!! Also, 37 keys is the absolute minimum to be playable, but I don't know about the size of the keys, or if it's got aftertouch, oct. up/down, etc, little important things for an instrument... And anyway, I will need sfp running, because what I will want to play live is Modular, Spacef and Pro-Wave, none of which I ever managed to get running on XTC. I tried to go the Magma way, and although I got a good performance on my laptop for Scope, I had a problem with noise and the PCMCIA card (a ground loop, I had to have the laptop running on batteries or I'd get a huge amount of noise in the signal...). But I'd still have to carry the laptop, the Magma box, a keyboard, and the controllers... It would be really great to get Scope in a box, and Miko, or Neko seem to be the straightest way: now with intel chipsets and all...
So, has anybody seen a Miko....
Blessings!
T
I've been trying to get some info from open labs, but hey are kind of slow to answer, and there's not so much info on the website... So I thought maybe I could trouble you to share a bit more of your experience using Scope and Neko. I understand that both of you use a 15+6 DSP combination, is this due to space restrictions? Would 2x15 fit? Do you use Scope as you would in Windows XP, or does it interact with its custom OS in interesting ways? Would XTC plugs be accessible to Karsyn? And how exactly do the Mic Pre's connect to the audio card, I believe the Delta 1010 doesn't have pre's... Is it an internal audio connection?
Since I would mostly perform solo, I think the Miko would be a great workstation - its relatively portable, and it doesn't seem to be that expensive - but I wonder if it could ever fit a couple of Scope Pros, or even one!! Also, 37 keys is the absolute minimum to be playable, but I don't know about the size of the keys, or if it's got aftertouch, oct. up/down, etc, little important things for an instrument... And anyway, I will need sfp running, because what I will want to play live is Modular, Spacef and Pro-Wave, none of which I ever managed to get running on XTC. I tried to go the Magma way, and although I got a good performance on my laptop for Scope, I had a problem with noise and the PCMCIA card (a ground loop, I had to have the laptop running on batteries or I'd get a huge amount of noise in the signal...). But I'd still have to carry the laptop, the Magma box, a keyboard, and the controllers... It would be really great to get Scope in a box, and Miko, or Neko seem to be the straightest way: now with intel chipsets and all...
So, has anybody seen a Miko....
Blessings!
T