Hi, first of all I'd like to thank people in this forum, since I've been reading and learning from you for some time now. So.. thank you!
Now I'm thinking about taking advantage of CW's summer specials, and I'm looking for the advice of people that already have the plugins I'm considering.
First candidate is interpole, which I would use for guitar and bass guitar mainly. Has anybody used it that way and liked it? Also, it looks like a similar effect could be done with Modular rather easily, but I guess main advantage of the Interpole is the Minimax filters...
My other candidate is Prodyssey. Since my main focus is rock-oriented guitar and bass (I can't even play keyboards) and I already have Minimax and Pro-12, I wonder If I'll be able to appreciate having Prodyssey.
I'm not trying to choose between one and the other, but rather to figure out to what extent these plugins will fit my needs.
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maybe u should look away from the specials, and focus on your needs?you say you are more of a rock guitar /bass kinda guy. in that case i would rather save up for the CW amp simulations, or celmos stuff (please check http://www.celmo.com/ see his BAM and GAM).
however u might be pleased to upgrade to the "mix n master" package, which as far as i remember includes the interpole. PLEASE CHECK THIS to be a fact though, its based on my memory.
however u might be pleased to upgrade to the "mix n master" package, which as far as i remember includes the interpole. PLEASE CHECK THIS to be a fact though, its based on my memory.
Well, actually I'm not that interested in dynatube since I prefer playing through a real amp, and for the simulator thing I already have a line6, even if it is not as good as dynatube (as I've seen reported here).
My intention with the Interpole is to use it as a stompbox before the amp. The hardware equivalent that comes to my mind is the moogerfooger MF-101 (http://www.moogmusic.com/detail.php?main_product_id=5), but I wonder whether Interpole gets close to that. Since there is no demo I have to rely on other people's experience.
As far as Proddissey is concerned, I guess you're right that it is a bit out of my main focus. On the other hand, I like having a few synth sounds available, as I'm a fan of 70's rock, where these synths are used extensively. But maybe the difference with Minimax is not that apparent to my guitar-tuned ears.
My intention with the Interpole is to use it as a stompbox before the amp. The hardware equivalent that comes to my mind is the moogerfooger MF-101 (http://www.moogmusic.com/detail.php?main_product_id=5), but I wonder whether Interpole gets close to that. Since there is no demo I have to rely on other people's experience.
As far as Proddissey is concerned, I guess you're right that it is a bit out of my main focus. On the other hand, I like having a few synth sounds available, as I'm a fan of 70's rock, where these synths are used extensively. But maybe the difference with Minimax is not that apparent to my guitar-tuned ears.
Prodissey has its own character, it's a great synth, but if you already own minimax and pro-12 I think you're well equiped in the synth department. If you were a keyboardist and synth addict you'd probably own it already...
Interpole is quite amazing, the interface is clearly laid down and easy to understand and use for minimum hassle, HOWEVER, if you really want to broaden your sonic spectrum and unlock the sound processing power of your dsps, I strongly recommend modular and Flexor. This is the ultimate FX, sound sculpting and mangling, pure creative sonic creation toolbox. It involves more research and the learning curve is steeper, but my friend, for all the possibilities it offers, it is quite worth the time and effort! ...especially at the price they ask...
Interpole is quite amazing, the interface is clearly laid down and easy to understand and use for minimum hassle, HOWEVER, if you really want to broaden your sonic spectrum and unlock the sound processing power of your dsps, I strongly recommend modular and Flexor. This is the ultimate FX, sound sculpting and mangling, pure creative sonic creation toolbox. It involves more research and the learning curve is steeper, but my friend, for all the possibilities it offers, it is quite worth the time and effort! ...especially at the price they ask...
I agree with Eliam - imho the Interpole is difficult to use at the proposed position of the record chain.
At least I never succeeded with such a setup.
It may have some strength in the low bass, which my room doesn't faithfully reproduce (and cans are just too 'hollow' to sense it properly).
I found it more appropriate at the end of the guitar signal chain, as a (slight to heavy) auto wah or lfo controlled - more an icing than a beefing effect.
This is just my personal taste, but I admit I (also?) expected a more upfront tone from the filter originally.
It sounds great nevertheless, maybe a bit too beautiful for some applications
Flexor is much more 'straightforward' soundwise in guitar context.
The distortion(s) and filter collections are awesome. And that's just where it starts...
You can parallel/serialize multiple filters, include granular FX and a ton of really strange stuff.
As an FX unit it's much easier to setup than a modular synth, so I'd just accept the learning curve - it's not too steep.
But definetely worth every step - if you don't like Adern's sound for guitar, I'll refund you...
I'm in no way associated with them - and you'll have to provide sound examples for public discussion, so no cheating please
cheers, Tom
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At least I never succeeded with such a setup.
It may have some strength in the low bass, which my room doesn't faithfully reproduce (and cans are just too 'hollow' to sense it properly).
I found it more appropriate at the end of the guitar signal chain, as a (slight to heavy) auto wah or lfo controlled - more an icing than a beefing effect.
This is just my personal taste, but I admit I (also?) expected a more upfront tone from the filter originally.
It sounds great nevertheless, maybe a bit too beautiful for some applications
Flexor is much more 'straightforward' soundwise in guitar context.
The distortion(s) and filter collections are awesome. And that's just where it starts...
You can parallel/serialize multiple filters, include granular FX and a ton of really strange stuff.
As an FX unit it's much easier to setup than a modular synth, so I'd just accept the learning curve - it's not too steep.
But definetely worth every step - if you don't like Adern's sound for guitar, I'll refund you...
I'm in no way associated with them - and you'll have to provide sound examples for public discussion, so no cheating please
cheers, Tom
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Yes, Flexor was in my mind too, but I was letting myself go with the attraction of the 50% price and in a way waiting for the "upcoming" v2 release...
Anyway, I will probably follow your advice and go for Flexor now. Specially with the refund offer! (just kiddin')
I had read great things about it but mostly from a synth standpoint, and I was not so clear about the audio processing side of it.
Astroman, from your post I understand you have used Flexor in front of an amp with satisfying results, haven't you?
and in a way waiting for the "upcoming" v2 release...Anyway, I will probably follow your advice and go for Flexor now. Specially with the refund offer!
(just kiddin')I had read great things about it but mostly from a synth standpoint, and I was not so clear about the audio processing side of it.
Astroman, from your post I understand you have used Flexor in front of an amp with satisfying results, haven't you?
kind of...
the amps were virtual ones though (Celmo's BAM w. guitar presets and Ingo's AmpIR) to a mixer channel, sometimes spiced with an A100 space.
the Flexor(modular) was placed before it, just as you'd do with a stompbox - I found that very powerful, imho Flexor's guitar distortion is excellent, let alone the filters...
The Interpole was in the same position, but much more tweaking required and not exactly fun - more of a '... there must be a way to make it sound good' experience.
my (current) room has horrible listening conditions, as there's not a single solid wall.
It's nice though, almost 100 years old, the lower part of the building's roof.
Until I finish the room on the ground floor, I'm sentenced to cans mostly.
But I'll quickly verify it on the next occasion.
cheers, Tom
the amps were virtual ones though (Celmo's BAM w. guitar presets and Ingo's AmpIR) to a mixer channel, sometimes spiced with an A100 space.
the Flexor(modular) was placed before it, just as you'd do with a stompbox - I found that very powerful, imho Flexor's guitar distortion is excellent, let alone the filters...
The Interpole was in the same position, but much more tweaking required and not exactly fun - more of a '... there must be a way to make it sound good' experience.
my (current) room has horrible listening conditions, as there's not a single solid wall.
It's nice though, almost 100 years old, the lower part of the building's roof.
Until I finish the room on the ground floor, I'm sentenced to cans mostly.
But I'll quickly verify it on the next occasion.
cheers, Tom
haha, Astroman......not exactly fun - more of a '... there must be a way to make it sound good' experience.
That sounds like the filterbank is a kind of shit...
I think the interpole is not an fx you would put on your guitar...( I may be wrong on this, I am not a guitar playa)
I think its more usable to sent through a boring synth pad sound and then heavily modulate many filterbank paramters to make the sound alive...
I did this just for checking filterbank out and switched a reverb with 10% wet behind it and it soundss very cool...
But I would not recommend interpole for any guitarist...
Would be the same, if I would recommend dynatube for a piano player...
Interpole is a cool fx on the right sounds...
j.my2c
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