how many dsps do you want?

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pkzon2003
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Post by pkzon2003 »

of course we probably want more and more

but what do you think about minimum dsp of

your project plz many reponds!!!
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Post by AudioIrony »

I suppose it's very individual.
I get by on 6 DSP's - it's all I've got so I have to... :grin:
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Post by bosone »

for "serious projects and mixing" 15 dsp are the minimum.... :smile:
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Post by firubbi »

really need a srb with my pulsar2 :smile:
thanks
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Post by bill3107 »

if you do all the mix (send each bus from sequencer to scope) of serious projects, then go for 14/15 dsp minimum. A 6 dsp card just allow you few synth (good though) and a little bit of mixing. Sooo... 15 is a minimum, and i would say that adding a 6 dsp to a 15 (20/21 dsp) can be a very good compromise. Remember that a host of plugins are dsp hungry (P100 !, minimax, B2003...) so if you need them go for 2 P2 or a scope 14/15 dsp...

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Post by pkzon2003 »

i have 12dsp..

but i want some more...

a endless desire.

are there anyone using 45 dsp seamless?

for 45dsp(3 scope cards) a particular pc

case is needed there? (e.g rackmount case)

how about power supply?
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Post by ChampionSound »

I have 12 dsp's as well: a pulsar2 plus a SRB board.
I can do quite some stuff on it, I don't mix in cubase, I route every track through asio to the STM2448. But with adding big synths and effects, my projects seem to grow every time as I want to do more and more on on the scope platform. Until now I never ran out out of resources, but sometimes it gets very close that I do run out of resources lately.
Maybe it's time to think about swapping my SRB board for a Scope pro board for some more DSP... Hmmm, is this the DSP addiction everybody is talking about? :wink:
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Post by Lima »

I've got 10 and I can mix 12-14 tracks without problems and using the big mixers and several effects.

I can run all the big synths (like minimax,vectron or Pro 12) with at least 8 voice of poliphony and some effects at the same time, but if I want to do a big project I have to record the synths one by one and then open a dedicated project to mix them.

So I'm pretty happy of my setup because I can do everything I need (for now :wink: ), but a bigger setup could speed up my works a lot.
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Post by dawman »

I've got 2 DAW's 4 SFP. One with 18 DSP, and 1 with 45 DSP. The one with 45 DSP is my synth from hell box, the 18 DSP is now being converted to a PA DAW, your basic moniotor / mixer, with lots of good EQ's, and FX, plus a Pro-12 track on occasion.
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Post by katano »

i use 30 dsp's for serious recording/mixing/mastering (24 to 30 channels) in ONE scope project...

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Post by garyb »

i typically use 18-24 in a mix. i could live with 15. for synthesis, the sky is the limit :wink: .
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Post by arela »

garyb: the sky is the limit .
...so it is, but my 15 is most mostly almost enough :smile:
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Post by petal »

I used to think that my 22 DSP's were enough untill new Creamwarecards would arive, but then I bought QuantumWave and fell in love...
I just got me a good deal on a Scope booster (my fourth card) in order to avoid maxing out my Creamware system, which is what has happened to almost all my latest music-productions.

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Post by Nestor »

I do wonders with 4.

I would like to have 15 and I actually need about it.

For my uttermost joy (I can’t even imagine it, I would perhaps die from a hard attack when having them), satisfaction and freedom, I would get two Big SCOPE, so having 28 DSP. I am sure I don’t need more than that for my way of composing music and working with projects. That is for me a full dream made true. I hope I can achieve it one day, who knows...
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Post by hifiboom »

so the question was: how many do you want...

and my answer: unlimited number of dsps is what I want...
:smile:


how many do I have: 12

How many would be enough for me to be happy for the moment?
30


I have to add:

These cards are really worth every penny, now I have my two Scope cards for about 2 weeks and I think the results I am now getting with these cards are 3xtimes better than anything I have mixed completly native over the last 4 years...

I cannot explain it, maybe its the fixed point thing, the internal fx or just the quality of the synths, but it sounds audible better, even the VSTis seem to fit better in the mixes...

Can somebody explain this? (I studied
informatics and have some programming skill - so I think it should sound like the native mixing thing)
But my ears tell me the opposite...

Apart from this the Scope boards are just very low latency audioboards with many ins and outs...

Even at its little higher prices these cards are a bargain...
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Post by dawman »

We are all addicted DSP addicts. Especially the synth junkies. We know our platform will come to an end someday, but until then let us rejoice 4 being a part of the best forum / platform ever invented. I am a true blue Creamware junkie, who will never stray. When this platform comes to an end, I will only replace it with the original hardware which Creamware replaced last year. That would be the mighty Oberheims, and SE-1x's, the Lexicon PCM 41.42, and 70, and the ancient ARP 2600S, which I haven't even touched 4 15 years!! I only regret not buying into the platform back in '99 when I heard it originally. If I would have bought it then, I could have been a contender.


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pkzon2003
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Post by pkzon2003 »

i hope that creamware become potent company
in the world. so we want new hardware and
software(new dsp chip, new plugin like
convolution reverb on dsp and nobuggy
system) but it's vague and remains long distances
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Post by jimmypage »

I have 3 scope cards with real 250watt power supply (passive power) this have on the 5 and 3 volt line real 175watt
no problem here
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Post by Shroomz~> »

Q. How many dsps do you want?

A. More than I need. (it's like 'horsepower')
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Post by katano »

for me, 1 dsp were enough if i could load all my stuff on it :grin:
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