A tip to Creamware how to sell more ASB`s

Micronesia · Post by **Micronesia** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:39 pm

Create a OS where you can switch from 4 part monophonic operation or 12voice one part.

A 4 part monophonic synthesizer attracts the sequensing/techno people more i think.

Also, i would like to see some kind of "patch dumping" feature so that you can use many different sounds along one song.

This could be done by midi sysex, or - if all the non global parameters are cc# controllable - simlpy make a "Dump CC status" button in the editor.

This is just much better then having to save to memory first and then use Programchanges.

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:30 am

The dsp usage is proportional to the number of voices, I think that only a little more resources are needed to have it multitimbral. It needs some design work of course, that's resources too, although not dsp's...

Micronesia · Post by **Micronesia** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:39 am

Everywhere i have seen the ASB`boxes been mentioned someone has always complained about lack of multimbrality!

Anna Lüse · Post by **Anna Lüse** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:02 pm

http://www.nimm2.de

Micronesia · Post by **Micronesia** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:31 pm

Thanks for contributing Anna, but now i think its time for your daily medication.

John Cooper · Post by **John Cooper** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:27 am

"Nimm 2" translates as "Take 2". Dirk's joke is that you can just buy 2 asb's and get twice the polyphony

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:57 pm

On 2006-07-18 11:27, John Cooper wrote:
"Nimm 2" translates as "Take 2". Dirk's joke is that you can just buy 2 asb's and get twice the polyphony

Well...not the most successful attempt of humor nor nailing the issue....

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:17 pm

I haven't heard of , or saw one ASB sold to anyone I know who performs here in Las Vegas, or L.A., or Nashville. This is just not being marketed here very much. I would love nothing better than to see Ali,Wolf, The Body Of Ralf, and all the CW guys do well here. 4 their sucsess is also ours, as we all have some kind of investment in this magnificient platform. 5000 USD per month will get you pimped by a high profile PR cpmpany. My friend who is rather wealthy now had such a firm promote his products. Ultimate Ears, a wireless monitor custom made in your ear solution. He has sold all the stars their gear, but didn't really get FAT until he went to the consumer version. But his 5000 USD a month investment had an outrageous ROI percentage due to the PR company's contributions. I wish CW well, and hope ASB catches on. And to Anna Luse, my favorite ASB babe, I wish you well, as a person with your sense of humor desrves to sucseed. How are the sales in Europe BTW, does anyone have that information?

nprime · Post by **nprime** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:41 pm

My impression is that they simply cannot produce enough of them to hope to capture a US market.

The US magazines have said very little about them.

Rod

ali · Post by **ali** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:56 pm

Pro12 review is to be released in Keyboard August issue.

Minimax review already released issue 20 in Grooves mag.

Pro12 & Minimax were sent for EM for review

Anna Lüse · Post by **Anna Lüse** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:03 am

On 2006-07-18 16:17, scope4live wrote:
I haven't heard of , or saw one ASB sold to anyone I know who performs here in Las Vegas, or L.A., or Nashville.

• Do these shops have the complete ASB-line in stock?
• Do they proper demonstrations on a perfect sound-system?
• Are the salesmen convinced of the sound, the handling, the performance, etc.?
• Are they only working on commission or do they want satisfy their customers on a longtime period?
• Do they have professional customers?

Ask for the owner of the shop and complain if something is wrong. Give me your feedback.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:49 pm

All I can say is this, if you want to sell something, you need to market it. It doesn't happen without marketing. People need to see it, and hear it. The ASB's would sell themselves, and smoke the shit out of Korg Triton, Yamaha Motif, Roland V-Synth XT, and anything else that sits on the stores in the USA. Why not come to the states and see 4 yourself. You just might realise what a great product you have. It's cheap, small, attractive, and sounds great. The other benefit is that you are not forced to buy a keyboard, but can choose the action you like. We here in Las Vegas love the game of Poker, and we also have a saying,...You Can't Win If You Don't Go. I have 32 years experience in playing the hardware you emulate, and believe me, you guys did your homework in that department, but in the marketing approach, well don't get mad, but it seems like your'e scared to sucseed? This reminds me of the movie the Producers. I don't know of your financial status. But these dogs will hunt, trust me. I quit using my Hammond B3, Oberheim Matrix 12 / XPander just to name a few. Because of your great products, and your commitment to upgrade, never leaving your customers under the bus so to speak. The big 3 as I call them, have the worst customer service, and constanly leave their customers under the bus. The time to strike is now. The market here is huge, and your products must be seen. How can I help? I consider you guys the AMD of the synth world, you just need a push in the right market. This would at least make the other companies make something new instead of the same old blah, blah, blah shit they regurgitate on a yearly basis. Next year the Motif will be called the Motif EXXXTXX. Please.

To Us, And Those Like Us,

Jimmy V.

BTW Anna Luse, got any more pictures 4 me? You are still my ASB babe, If I could only meet a girl with big chi chi's, great body, and long thick beautiful hair who could talk and program SFP I would consider myself in Elysium/Heaven/Valhalla.

[ This Message was edited by: scope4live on 2006-07-19 17:50 ]

Anna Lüse · Post by **Anna Lüse** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:17 pm

Wir sind das Volk - we are the people*

Hello scope4live,

thank you for your great posting and all these compliments.
Are you complaining that the ASB product-line is not present in the stores? We can change the situation today.

• Call the manager/owner and ask for Creamware ASBs.
• Tell him about your history.
• Tell him that these instruments are the best.
• Tell him that he misses a lot of bucks if does not have ASBs available in his store.
• Use your network.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday_dem ... ons_in_GDR?

Best regards

Tante Anna

[ This Message was edited by: Anna Lüse on 2006-07-20 02:37 ]

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:43 pm

I was away for a couple of days, but I personally have lots of experience from watching my friend/owner of Ultimate Ears get his way with the warehouse/stores in the USA. JRRShop and others carry it here, but to my knowledge there are no places I'm aware of with a demo set up. I remember when Creamware started in '98 with the DP's and Pulsar I, no demo's either. ASB's would be much easier as you need no knowledge or a computer just to demo it. I will start at Sam Ash, and Guitar Center here in Las Vegas. Maybe some info on price/units might be needed, I will keep you posted. Your sucsess is vital 4 me, and all of my fellow Pulsarians, and Flexorians, and John Bowians, and SpaceFians, and Celmoians.

As You Were,

_________________
Jimmy V.

My dearest Anna, I would do anything 4 you. Your wish is my command.

[ This Message was edited by: scope4live on 2006-07-24 14:46 ]

Eric Dahlberg · Post by **Eric Dahlberg** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:17 pm

It's too bad the original idea seems to be getting blown off, that sounds to me like a really smart thing to do. Yes, multitimbrality will use more DSP but I think there are a lot of users out there who would gladly sacrifice voice count to get it. If nothing else, it's a great marketing point that would definitely give people a sense of value.