Software Transfers

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:03 am

I want to share all synths on two DAW's. Do I need to buy a liscense transfer? I wish to have redundant ability just in case something goes wrong during the gig. I will have back up projects on both boxes. I figured out that the two DAW's are still cheaper to use in a live gig, with back up 4 each other, than my hardware rig of yesteryear.

Post by **garyb** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:53 am

unfortunately, transfers just move keys from one card to another. a scope device license is like buying a hardware device. if you want the hardware in more than one location you must buy two.....

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:01 pm

Yeah, I've engaged a personal little "war" against this policy... I've requested several times to Creamware a sort of multicard-multysystem bundle, but they have never answered about this question.
I think that is absurd to full pay 2 times for the same plugin in 2 PC that I own...
A lot of software houses offers similar multi license bundles.
Maybe because the reg key linked to hardware makes some troubles to control the reselling second hand market...

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:19 pm

Well they just made my mind up 4 me. I am now inspired to buy everything used, since I
know how reliable, and durable the systems are. I will have to be very selective with placement of synths. I wasn't sure, but I transferred some of the synths and FX that were made by my dual DP box before I sold it back to original owner. They went from the DP box to my live rig w/o incident. A great delay/looper modeled after the Lexicon Prime Time, PCM 42, and a great Crumar Spirit synth device. A great little known synth from the golden age of analog. Does this mean I have to buy SpaceF, and Adern stuff all over again too?

Post by **garyb** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:30 pm

that's up to them.....

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:33 pm

Ladies And Gentlemen,...GaryB.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:36 am

This is not new in the world of software. The copy of Windows you're running, for example, is licensed to use one 1 machine. It's just harder to enforce with something like that.

Creamware plugins are licensed to *the card* - therefore for example, if you had a Magma box and wanted to use it on a home desktop via PCI and on a live laptop rig via PCMCIA, you could do it.

If it wasn't for the copy protection, Creamware would be dead and buried already... nothing is forcing you to use the same plugins on 2 systems - if you want this I guess you have to pay for the privilege - as I mentioned this is not unusual for software. Creamware protection is just better than other companies' methods. I don't think the policy is absurd (yes I have 2 systems and 2 sets of the main plugins I use).

Surely it's better in the long term to have a living Creamware than a dead one with no possibility whatsoever of support?

I once bought a used card with just about every plugin available. I intended to sell some of them, but when Creamware introduced the fee, I dealt with it... I'd prefer them to get some revenue than personally making a few measly bucks from some 2nd hand plugs.

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sharc · Post by **sharc** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:00 am

Did you create those plugs Scope4live or was it the original owner? The Crumar Spirit sounds interesting, a friend of mine has one (they're very rare). I was actually thinking of doing something with it when I get the SDK, but now that someone's already beaten me to it...

spacef · Post by **spacef** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:11 am

just thought i might pop in to precise that spacef stuff are not board dependant.
the downside is that you cannot resale it (well you can but the new owner has to pay full license anyway).
i have the pretention to make stuff for people who would NEVER sale their board

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:53 pm

Darkrezin Is Correct,
After I thought about the scenario, I couldn't agree more. I sometimes speak b4 I think, CW must survive or my large investment would wither away. I wish this platform, and our beloved forum to thrive. Thanks 4 bringing my uppity ass back to Earth.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:25 am

On 2006-07-17 07:00, sharc wrote:
Did you create those plugs Scope4live or was it the original owner?

??

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:57 am

Sorry,
I pm'd the answer. I did not make them. But have the pleasure of using them.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:02 am

Ah ok, my Bro's got a PM then

Dang shame you can't share the dev's !!

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:56 am

Never said I couldn't. I will speak to him on this and other matters. He is a snake in the grass, so we shall see.

J.V.