Solaris Guru Needed,

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue May 09, 2006 12:59 pm

I was creating a patch for an intro in a Weather Report song. Got my waveforms and envelopes,porta, ModWheel mod.'s,etc.etc.etc.
Now I just wanted a little movement in the sound so I started tweaking and accidentally programmed in a unique rotary cabinet emulation, with horn braking included. It sounds awesome especially when the leslie kicks in, you shoot up the mod wheel to 50 % and decrease it as the doppler effect starts to slow. Problem is, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, so I need some expert advice so I can learn from my dissabilities in modular programming. I have stored it, but don't know how to send a file to PlanetZ. So yes I will need some assistance, but this must be dissected by someone who knows how in the hell I got this to sound so good?

Always Bothersome,

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue May 09, 2006 1:39 pm

C'mon you guys, your'e killing me.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue May 09, 2006 1:50 pm

I'm on it now my brother, thank you.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue May 09, 2006 2:06 pm

Wow my first ever transfer of a file, let's raise the flag. Send me a pm or reply to message here.

I Gotsta' know,

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu May 11, 2006 4:58 pm

nice presets, Jimmy

I don't qualify as a Solaris guru, but the leslie/brake effect seems from modulating the lfo that is routed to slightly detune the pitch and the filter simultaneously - together with the pan modulation only the phase shift is missing.
It's an interesting patch as it's impression is so depending on low modulation depth - sometimes less is more

cheers, tom

[ This Message was edited by: astroman on 2006-05-11 17:59 ]

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed May 17, 2006 1:53 pm

Thank You Astroman,
My experiments with the outrageous amount of routing in Solaris is giving me the ability to do things with pads w/o having to commit another controller during live performance. I have both hands tied up, and usually one foot, so this effect is great for sustaining pads. I since have really customized it per patch with frequency, and filter adjustments. Do you remember that D-50 patch from the '80's called " Heaven "? I have made that sound with external WAV.'s from the JD800, and Kyma WAV.'s. It sounds so good w/ the rotary effect. My producer buddy here in NV. says why don't you route it to the B2003 FX? Because it is meant to add doppler w/o the saturation/overdrive of the real emulation. I can't wait to add automation to Solaris with an external VST host. Right now the MC-500MkII is doing some experiments w/ Solaris and this is also lot's of fun. Syncable filter sweeps w/ added Tape Delay ( Celmo of course ), make this synth a blast. I am making a bunch of purchases tonight like Adern, Wolf, SpaceF, and GS3 DVD's. So I'm sure that I will be asking for help from my fellow Pulsarians very soon.

Strength Through Superior DSP's,

Post by **hubird** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:41 pm

On 2006-05-17 14:53, scope4live wrote:
So I'm sure that I will be asking for help from my fellow Pulsarians very soon.

looks more that we will ask you soon...

Post by **hubird** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:42 pm

On 2006-05-17 14:53, scope4live wrote:
So I'm sure that I will be asking for help from my fellow Pulsarians very soon.

looks more that we will ask you soon...

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:02 pm

It would be my honor to oblidge.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Wed May 17, 2006 5:23 pm

On 2006-05-17 14:53, scope4live wrote:
I can't wait to add automation to Solaris with an external VST host.

There is a little tool in Flexor (I think it was released as a freebie too here on PZ) called 'Val Monitor'. This is a modular module with an input for control signals and a fader which not only indicates the value but also can have a MIDI CC assigned to it. So you basically set up networks of LFOs in the Modular (you can have them cross-modulating and mixing with each other etc). Then connect up the MIDI out of the Modular to the MIDI in of the Solaris, set the CC's for the Val Monitors to the desired numbers.

I have also used Val Monitor for the reverse - it also has a control signal output. I routed this to a modular output which I then connected to a Scope analog output hooked up to a CV input on an analog filter. The end result being a handy MIDI to CV converter.

Have fun

[ This Message was edited by: darkrezin on 2006-05-17 18:26 ]

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed May 17, 2006 6:05 pm

That sounds fuckin' great!! Thank you for this little nibble of info, for I still use my rackmounted analog synth for mono/legato use, and it sounds better than DSP mono/legato IMHO. That being said, this is good news for I still have my ancient Sherman Filter Bank, which I used alot a few years back for its fat ass filter sounds. Does this platform of ours have any limitations? NOT!! I will share any unique and worthwhile sounds I create.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Wed May 17, 2006 6:37 pm

I know what you mean about analog monos. I was playing an old Moog Prodigy the other day, I forgot how such a simple, cut-down synth can sound so good and so playable.

Here's the val monitor:

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... 8&forum=16

The free version, it seems, doesn't have a control output. So you'll have to buy Flexor for MIDI to CV madness

[ This Message was edited by: darkrezin on 2006-05-17 19:38 ]

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed May 17, 2006 7:03 pm

Just bought it. Also joined the Adern forum, although it appears to be like a vacated village. I have only just begun to experiment. Hate to be a ballbuster, but you guys got me going last summer, and I will only become more bothersome. I do promise to return all favors granted once I have learned my way around.

Strength And Honor,

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Fri May 19, 2006 8:03 am

I think the forum is pretty quiet because there's nothing wrong with Flexor and the docs and example patches are all you need to get working with it.

I think that atom and a couple of others do keep an eye on the forum though, so I'm sure if you ask a question there you'd get a response.

Otherwise, I'm sure the Modular forum here would be a good place to get help.

One important thing to remember with Modular and Flexor - remember that control and audio signals are interchangeable (unlike many other 'virtual modulars'). Most of Flexor's modulation inputs are designed to handle audio-rate modulation. Very cool for strange filter FM and other fun experiments.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:33 am

You Guys Are Great,
I feel as though we are all collaborating scientists from around the world sharing our thoughts and ideas on how to re-direct incoming asteriods with modular synthesis. These are great days for all of us, and I only hope that my sought after ears as my recording colleagues say, can re-pay the un-dying devotion that I witness on this beautiful forum. Hoo-rah!!

I Shall Return,