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Neil B

Post by Neil B »

Hi folks.

I've found a bit of time to switch the music pc on and have thought of a question or two for you skillful, knowledgeable Planet Z guys.

I use Cubase but I suppose other sequencers will be the same - my theory question:

Question 1:
Suppose I have a Pulsar or VST synth playing my midi track in stereo - lets say panned left 20 and right 20.
Next, I export this to an audio file and onto an audio track in Cubase.
I mute or delete the midi track (no longer needed)
So, on the audio track, how should I set the pan? Should it be set to -20 and +20 or panned hard right and left because the wave file is already "panned" ??
Strange question, but important to me.

Question 2:
While I'm here I may as well ask this question although I can get it from my Cubase manual (but hey, why not):

Where do the dynamics in Cubase (EQ etc) sit in the chain?
Are they before or after insert effects?
Are they before or after Send effect?

Anyway, nice to show my face again, although I do read the posts from time to time.
Hope you're all okay.
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Post by ChrisWerner »

Good morning Neil.

1. You must leave the audio track hard panned (full left and right). The audio track plays at the panorama you´ve recorded it.

If you diminish the panorama of the recorded audio track you diminish the panorama again, ends in a mono panorama, finally.

2. The built-in dynamic and EQ of a cubase audio track sits behind the sends and inserts and in front of the group channels and finally the master channel.

You can test it by yourself.
Add a delay as an insert to an audio track and move with your mouse a band of the EQ quickly around.
The peaks you produce with the EQ can´t be heard in the delay tail.

Nice to see you around again, enjoy your music!

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Post by Shroomz~> »

Hi Neil,

Chris was correct about the pan question.

However... in Cubase SX the first 6 insert slots are pre-EQ & pre-fader & the last two insert slots (for any channel) are post-EQ and post-fader. In Cubase SL, only the last insert slot for an output channel is post-EQ and post-fader.

By routing an effect send from an audio track to an FX channel track, the audio is sent to the FX channel and through its insert effect(s) which have the same signal path as described above for audio track inserts. IE 6 pre-EQ & pre-fader inserts & 2 post. If you want the signal to be sent to the FX channel before the audio channel’s volume fader in the mixer, click on the Pre Fader button for
the send so that it lights up.

Hope that makes sense. :smile:
cheers
Neil B

Post by Neil B »

Thanks to you both for your prompt replies.

Thanks Chris (ever the expert!)- you know my working methods (and PC limitations) so I'm sure you could visualise my studio!

Thanks Shroomz - I'm still light years behind with VST 32/5.1 but I'll save the SX information for (hopefully) future upgrading.
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Post by Shroomz~> »

Hi Neil,

you didn't mention what version of Cubase you're running. The obvious conclusion (or assumption) was that it would be SX or SL, but I should have asked to make sure before wasting my breath .. again :roll:

cheers :wink:
Neil B

Post by Neil B »

Hey Schroomz,
As Toby said in an episode of West Wing "Well, there's 20 seconds of my life I'll never see again"!!!

Seriously, it wasn't wasted - I value the tip and will upgrade Cubase one day

:smile:
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Post by Shroomz~> »

Hehe, no worries. I need to stop giving advice without first getting the correct info, that's all :smile:

cheers
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