amd dual chip

flowmika · Post by **flowmika** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:38 am

Hi is there anybody out there who has got a system with an amd dual chip to work correctly
with a pulsar card
im considering buying a pulsar 2 card but im unsure
thanks in advance
bren

[ This Message was edited by: flowmika on 2006-02-15 01:39 ]

petal · Post by **petal** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:47 am

The CPU isn't usually the problem. The chipset however is the one to choose carefully.
Give us all the specs of your system, then someone in here might have some experience with your kind of system.

Thomas

flowmika · Post by **flowmika** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:22 am

Heres my system
AMDDual core 4400
asus a8v via k8t800 chipset
2gig of kingston hyperx memory 2.2.2.5
nvida 6200 video card
uad-1 card
lacie firewire 800 card
rme 9532 card

cheers

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:28 am

Using AMD x2 multiprocessing gave me terrible ASIO audio performance -- ticks and pops. I've tried every trick I can possibly think of to fix it. If I insert /onecpu into boot.ini to switch Windows into singleprocessing mode, it works great. Unfortunately, you lose of the of the cores.

If anyone else got it to work, write in here!

Shayne

flowmika · Post by **flowmika** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:39 pm

cheers shayne,thats put me right off buying a scope,surely it seems as though creamware are going to lose out,losing customers,uad updated drivers for dual chip systems,what a great working card it now is
thanks for the info

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:48 pm

Hi Shayne,

Did you look at buyakasha's config in the user config thread? he seems to have a working system close to yours. I wonder if he could put more explanations on how he installed his system (chipset drivers, ...) to solve your issue.

here is his config:
Computer Setup....
Hardware

Case .........Silentmaxx ST11 Pro
PSU ..........Silentmaxx Semi-fanless 450w
Motherboard...Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra 939
CPU...........AMD Athlon 64X2 4800+ (toledo)
VGA Card......Matrox P650 DualHead 64mb
CPU Fan.......Zalman 7700-Cu + Fan Mate
Ram...........Corsair 2x1GB PC3200 DDR 400 C2
Hard Drives...4x Maxtor Diamond Max 10 250GB S-ATA/150 16mb 7200rpm

Hard Drive Cooling Cases...4x Silentmaxx Harddisk Silencer case
Case fan......Coolermaster 12x12cm

PCI Slots...
Scope Cards...2x Scope cards (total 30(28) Dsp)
Other cards...1x UAD card

Software...

OS............Windows XP Pro with SP2
Sequencer.....Cubase SX3
Creamware Scope Pro v4.0
M'n'M and S'n'S Packages
Audio Editor...Wavelab 5

Extra software include.....
Instruments
NI............B4 and Battery 2
VST...........The Grand, Elec Guitar, Halion 3.
Aturia........Minimoog v1.5

Effects....
Waves Platinum Bundle
Antares Auto-Tune 4
Universal Audio v4.0

External Hardware......

Speakers............Dynaudio Acoustics BM15A
Master Keyboard.....Roland XP80
Stage Piano.........RD 600
Modules.............Roland XV 5080,
and.................Korg Triton Rack,
and.................Access Virus B.
Midi Interface......Emagic AMT 8 (via RS232)
Midi Controller.....Mackie Control (Master) and 2x Mackie Control Extenders

AD/DA Converters....Creamware A16 Ultra x2 (via Zlink)

Microphone..........Rode NTK, NT2
Headphone Controller....Samson C-que-8
Headphones..........Beyer Dynamic DT 770 x2

Effects.........
Focusrite...........ISA 430 MK2
Lexicon.............MPX-1
Alesis..............Midiverb 4...

Cheers

Michel

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:56 pm

On 2006-02-16 12:39, flowmika wrote:
cheers shayne,thats put me right off buying a scope,...

well, in that specific thread about Shayne's system problems there were 3 answers by people who were happy with an AMD dual setup

ScofieldKid
I'm doing X2 4200+ and an ASUS NVIDIA AGP card in an ASROCK-939 mobo. Awesome CPU, and the mobo has been really stable for me. Very responsive.

buyakasha
Hey claudioDupgraded my . I've system about a month ago which uses AMD X2 with SFP and I can tell you that it works damn good.

Wayne DuCharme
I found all the raves for the Asus A8V on the cubase and Nuendo forums. ...
I had as many of you know "many problems"...
Here is the solution I put in an MSI K8N NEO2 F board - Problems solved. Scope installed all is working well

and some wise words

symbiote
Why aren't you asking Microsoft why a driver that works in single core doesn't work with dual core? Isn't it their job to make multiprocessor/cores totally transparent in their OS?

cheers, Tom

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:37 pm

Hi Astro,

I think compatibility with AMD dual core is not yet clear, and it's a rather wise decision not to go, particularly as even creamware in their document claim that their platform is not compatible with dual processors. Shayne might use his system in a way which hilight some instability not faced by others configs.

Positively, if we could help Shayne to solve his problem, I would feel confortable to recommend someone else to invest in this platform.

Speaking of Shayne, I think there is something interesting to check: Buyakasha config have XP Pro which is said to support multi processors while Shayne is on XP home (if my memory is correct). Could be interesting to check which version of XP others successful users have.

Cheers

Michel

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:43 am

yes, it's a pretty complex thing anyway - yet it isn't simply 'Scope doesn't run on dualcore'.
Or multiprocessor systems in general - I had no problems at all to install it in an (old) Dual P3 HP workstation, though CWA's instructions from those days suggested to avoid it.

At least someone (quoted above) found out that flowmika's Asus board did NOT run well and he exchanged it for a MSI.

here's a recent quote by geoffd99 (who originally had tons of problems) from the thread 'digital flinching big time'

Just a thought:
I got my CW system almost stable, just a few odd freezes, instant reboots, and such like, then I got a anti spyware program (Spyware Doctor), and a proper (paid for) AVG anti virus, these removed loads of nasty things from my system, which the free anti virus programs had missed, also there is a Microsoft antispyware program which is good and free.

I had been running my PC offline for a while then put the internet back on for convenience. It is new 3Ghz, 1 gig ram, a P2 and a SRB card.

And since running these antispyware / virus programs I have not had a single freeze or problem with any of this, CW runs perfectly, never freezes etc, whatever I do to the system (I used to reboot into a non USB etc system profile, and had done all the tweaks imaginable).
Now CW runs with everything else, internet, firewall, programs on, etc. All fine.

Much to my surprise!

cheers, Tom

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Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:47 pm

On 2006-02-16 16:37, MD69 wrote:
Hi Astro,

Speaking of Shayne, I think there is something interesting to check: Buyakasha config have XP Pro which is said to support multi processors while Shayne is on XP home (if my memory is correct). Could be interesting to check which version of XP others successful users have.

I have XP Professional SP2. I also recently tried a few other things like using MSConfig to turn off most services and components, turning my system to barebones. I enabled only Windows Audio and Plug'n'Play. I still got ticks and pops with dualcore. I turned graphics acceleration to off -- no fixes. I tried the Microsoft multiprocessing performance hotfix -- no improvements. The only thing I haven't tried is swapping my video card out for another one. It's an ATi Radeon 8500 AGP 4x 128MB. Would that be causing any issues?

I just don't understand why I'm getting the results I'm getting.

Singlecore has always worked consistently.