What is the difference between the 14 & 15 dsp carrd?

haze · Post by **haze** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:57 pm

I am ready to purchase the CW Scope pro. I would like to know the difference between the PowerPulsar Plus 15-Chip DSP Card and the 14 dsp Scope pro card. The 15 dsp card is $100-$200's cheaper. I was wondering if it has less software or slower dsp chips. Any info would be appreciated.

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:49 pm

all dsp are same (60mhz)
get the Scope pro card(it has both Mix and synth software for free) i bought mix software few month ago(for my pulsar2)... its very very useful

thanks

haze · Post by **haze** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:56 pm

Thanx for responding Firubbi. So the 15 chip card doesn't come with the Synth&Sampler and Mix&Master Packs?

Post by **garyb** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:21 am

it depends on when it was purchased. otherwise, for all intents and purposes, they are the same.

haze · Post by **haze** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:10 am

Thanx Garyb. I don't mean to be a pain in the a$$. I just want to be very clear before I make the purchase. If I buy the CreamWare PowerPulsar Plus 15-Chip DSP Card today, brand new from Sam Ash for example. Would I get the 4.5 ver. of the software with SnS and MnM packs. Or would I be able to upgrade to that for free? It seems like it would be a better buy, if I got the extra dsp chip and saved a couple of hundred dollars. If, it comes with exactly the same software as the Scope Pro. Thank you for your help.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:05 am

Just to be clear, the 15 Sharc DSP is the same as the 14 DSP Sharc - the 14 DSP card in fact has 15 DSPs. There's a bit of history attached to why it's called a 14 DSP card: when you use the card the DSP meter in SCOPE shows 14 DSPs because the 15th is used for the operating system. So many people kept asking CreamWare where the 15th DSP was that they just renamed it to 14 to try and stop the confusion - only adding to your confusion

So on that basis all you need to be sure of are the differences between the card. Which card has the right Input/Output options for you? Which has the more software for you?

You might like to email Ralf rb(at)creamware.de to make sure you'll get the new 4.5 software - i don't know if it comes standard after a certain date or if you have to pay for it. If you get it from a dealer i would assume you'd get the new software but it's worth checking.

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arela · Post by **arela** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:47 am

thx Mr Arkadin
I remeber it had something to do with DSP usage and user complains.

If you payed $1500 for 15 dsp's and it shows only 14,it's like $100 out the window

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:04 am

The difference between 14 and 15 is access to SDK.

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:50 am

On 2006-02-08 10:04, paulrmartin wrote:
The difference between 14 and 15 is access to SDK.

What do you mean? I don't think so.... I have SDK registered on a powerpulsar, I think it should be the same with the "14dsp" ones.

Post by **garyb** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:34 pm

afaik, if it's a brand new card, you get 4.5. ALL of the later power pulsars came with m&m and s&s. if the power pulsar is more than $100 cheaper, then it REALLY doesn't matter because it's only $100 to upgrade to 4.5....

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:11 am

On 2006-02-08 11:50, alfonso wrote:
On 2006-02-08 10:04, paulrmartin wrote:
The difference between 14 and 15 is access to SDK.

What do you mean? I don't think so.... I have SDK registered on a powerpulsar, I think it should be the same with the "14dsp" ones.

I seem to remember that to have the right to SDK one must have a 15 DSP board. No?

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:42 am

i'll say again, the 14 DSP board is the 15 DSP board. Over and out.

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:23 am

I remember <a href=http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=5>an old thread</a> in which Arcadios actually counted the chips on board - and ended with 14

maybe CWA stretched old stock a bit this way - I dunno, but it's definetely not worth making a big story of it.
let alone the (potential) risk of a several years old board versus a brand new one and the different software pacakges

cheers, Tom