Scope 4.5 version-What is included-The Full list

Post by **hubird** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:04 pm

On 2005-12-02 17:26, antar wrote:
also my answer to erminardi here. I am sure there is a logical explanation:

waiting...

Chisel · Post by **Chisel** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:10 pm

On 2005-12-02 14:06, antar wrote:
If you don't own any of the Old Packs then your upgrade will only include the Scope v 4.5 Software listed above

Now I'm confused because in an early post I thought Bosone said he got B-2003 and Pro-12 without owning the older packs?

Post by **hubird** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:15 pm

ehh, you're right, can't be, must be an error...

Chisel · Post by **Chisel** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:21 pm

On 2005-12-02 20:15, hubird wrote:
ehh, you're right, can't be, must be an error...

Also Replicant and Bifop got the same thing as Bosone. So the question is: do you get the B-2003 and Pro-12 regardless of what you currently own? If the answer is yes, then I'm in

Post by **hubird** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:25 pm

same here

but why was you quoting me?

Chisel · Post by **Chisel** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:28 pm

On 2005-12-02 20:25, hubird wrote:
same here
but why was you quoting me?

No reason really

Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:18 pm

More confused than ever.
Sounds like I'm getting everything,looks like I'm only getting a few bits.

Antar does Vectron Masterveb pro and Stm 48/96 come with 4.5 automatically when we upgrade and the choice of extras part of upgrade offer?
Which package offers PsyQ for project owners?

Thanks

[ This Message was edited by: Music Manic on 2005-12-02 21:20 ]

Post by **Guest** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:01 am

People who own a Scope Project S* (SnS), had the Vectron 3.0 already.

Now if they upgrade their pack to SnS #2, they will get the Pro-12 + B2003 extra
plus the MasterVerb Pro + Mixer Package 2 as part of basic software now

And if they already have Scope Project M* (MnM) they already have the PsyQ, and
they will get the Interpole + VDAT extra
plus SB404, Poison and EDS-16i as part of basic software now.

and if they don't own the old MnM or SnS
they don't get any devices of the new packs

BUT they get the following DEVICES from the old Packs:

from Project M* :the Masterverb Pro + Mixer package 2

From Project S*: the SB404 + EDS-16i

Simple really.

[ This Message was edited by: antar on 2005-12-03 00:08 ]

Chisel · Post by **Chisel** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:48 am

and if they don't own the old MnM or SnS
they don't get any devices of the new packs

This statement is what I'm questioning. It is contrary to three posts from users on this forum. I'll ask again.. Is there anyone here that didn't have any S&S or M&M packs before and still received B-2003 and Pro-12 in the 4.5 upgrade?

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:35 am

On 2005-12-03 00:01, antar wrote:

and if they don't own the old MnM or SnS
they don't get any devices of the new packs

BUT they get the following DEVICES from the old Packs:

from Project M* :the Masterverb Pro + Mixer package 2 + SBC + Interpole + VDAT + SB-404 + EDS-16i + Poison

Plus the whole M'n'M pack new from scratch (I've never buyed this one!), but I think that could be a (luky for me) mistake from Creamware!

From Project S*: the SB404 + EDS-16i
+ PRO-12 + B-2004 + SBC + MasterVerb Pro + Poison + STM-4896 + STM-48S

This my experience with 2 upgrade for my 2 Pulsar II both without previously expansion packs.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:49 am

You should've kept that quiet m8... sshh U know

Anyway, you've gone public

So, congrats on the new free software that some of us have sold classic analogue gear to buy.

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:16 pm

I hope that this is not a mistake but a real similar upgrade for all PlanetZ community.
Maybe, could be that the precedent owner of my one of PulsarII (is second hand buy) had a hidden M'n'M pack never activated, who knows...
Howewer I've then purchased a second (and fundamentally unnecessary) Scope 4.5 update S'n'S, on the entuisiasm of the M'n'M gift, with a little delusion: no S'n'S pack!
Anyway Pro-12 + B-2003 worth the 98eu!

Holy X-Mas to all Pulsarian

Stige · Post by **Stige** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:09 pm

I'm sorry, but this is a bit funny

Lots of debating and confusion, and not a single word from creamware to make this all clear. Neither is too clear their website.

I can recall, it was the same when scope 4.0 came out.

What I personally believe, 98 euros entitles old users to:

SBC SpectralBalance
Pro-12
STM-4896
MasterVerb Pro
B2003
STM-48S
Poison

OR:

SBC Spectral Balance Controller
VDAT
SB-404
Interpole
EDS-16i
Poison

Regardless what they previously own.

I have no idea what is the truth then.
My contribution to this soup

Stige · Post by **Stige** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:18 pm

Quote from CW website:
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Version 4.5 of the SCOPE platform brings a massive upgrade in functionality and features to the home, project and professional packages. For a limited time only we offer to upgrade your existing SCOPE system to the software status of version 4.5 – at the very affordable price of just 98 EUR, no matter which product and which version you have today!
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According to this text, it would be very fair that upgrading to the latest software status means that we ALL get the FULL M&M pack or S&S pack, same as new users. This text really gives you such impression.
Doesn't it?

[ This Message was edited by: Stige on 2005-12-03 14:19 ]

mashen · Post by **mashen** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:21 am

On 2005-12-03 14:18, Stige wrote:
Quote from CW website:
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Version 4.5 of the SCOPE platform brings a massive upgrade in functionality and features to the home, project and professional packages. For a limited time only we offer to upgrade your existing SCOPE system to the software status of version 4.5 – at the very affordable price of just 98 EUR, no matter which product and which version you have today!
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According to this text, it would be very fair that upgrading to the latest software status means that we ALL get the FULL M&M pack or S&S pack, same as new users. This text really gives you such impression.
Doesn't it?

[ This Message was edited by: Stige on 2005-12-03 14:19 ]

Yes indeed it does! And it is quite puzzling that they don't straiten this out.

/Mattias

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:25 am

My few cents. How about these old cards, like Pulsar I and the like? Well, I have the old Scope /SP so what I am entitled to?
When I read the CW site, I thought I will get ALL the new plugins. If it isn't the case, I'll consider again paying the 98eurs.

mashen · Post by **mashen** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:20 am

"If you already own a SCOPE project or a Pulsar I/II system: we have prepared a very attractive package to upgrade your system to the latest software status – don’t miss our Special Upgrade Offer"

"Version 4.5 of the SCOPE platform brings a massive upgrade in functionality and features to the home, project and professional packages. For a limited time only we offer to upgrade your existing SCOPE system to the software status of version 4.5 – at the very affordable price of just 98 EUR, no matter which product and which version you have today!"

Owners of Pulsar I should, according to their site, also have the opportunity to upgrade to latest software status. Which in that case would be the software that comes with a new Scope Project card, which includes either an S&S or an M&M package.

Mattias

[ This Message was edited by: mashen on 2005-12-04 10:27 ]

powerpulsarian · Post by **powerpulsarian** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:32 am

Their site also clearly says upgrading to Home v4.5 will include Modular III - but it doesn't because they didn't send that key. I bought the updgrade thinking for sure Modular III was included (I was going to get Modular III, but spent my money on this instead thinking I would get it and more). But now I don't have Modular III.

Here's the text that says I should have received Modular III (third paragraph under "What is New in SCOPE home"):

Also, some of the synth highlights that were previously contained in the Synth’n’Sampler pack are now part of the SCOPE home package: welcome the fun-loaded SB-404 and the groovy EDS-16i! Further new arrivals in the synth category are the Poison and the Modular III monster modular. With version 4.5, SCOPE home now features very advanced synth capabilities. 

[ This Message was edited by: powerpulsarian on 2005-12-04 10:34 ]

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:48 am

On 2005-12-04 10:20, mashen wrote:
Owners of Pulsar I should, according to their site, also have the opportunity to upgrade to latest software status. Which in that case would be the software that comes with a new Scope Project card, which includes either an S&S or an M&M package.

Yeah, and we Scope /SP owners should get all the plugs.

Powerpulsarian, have you sent a complaint to CW?

mashen · Post by **mashen** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:08 am

On 2005-12-04 10:32, powerpulsarian wrote:
Their site also clearly says upgrading to Home v4.5 will include Modular III - but it doesn't because they didn't send that key. I bought the updgrade thinking for sure Modular III was included (I was going to get Modular III, but spent my money on this instead thinking I would get it and more). But now I don't have Modular III.

Here's the text that says I should have received Modular III (third paragraph under "What is New in SCOPE home"):

Also, some of the synth highlights that were previously contained in the Synth’n’Sampler pack are now part of the SCOPE home package: welcome the fun-loaded SB-404 and the groovy EDS-16i! Further new arrivals in the synth category are the Poison and the Modular III monster modular. With version 4.5, SCOPE home now features very advanced synth capabilities. 

[ This Message was edited by: powerpulsarian on 2005-12-04 10:34 ]

Hi Powerpulsarian!

Send them a mail and ask for them to send you the missing key. If they refuse to do that, have them explain why not. At least, I'm rely curious to hear that answer, and I think there are more curious ones out there.

Mattias

[ This Message was edited by: mashen on 2005-12-04 11:14 ]