Questions about buying second hand Pulsar

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astroman
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Post by astroman »

On 2005-11-23 04:14, Micronesia wrote:
Aah.. Never jump to conclusions :smile:
I have just been in contact with him, and he
is just simply very busy right now but he told
me that he would contact Creamware and tell i was the owener of these software packages.
As well as transfer his my account to me...
congrats :smile:
... and once more Ralf saved the day... :grin:

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:grin:
hope you get the rest of your plugs promptly.
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If Ralf gave you the allkey file that belongs to the SN at hand and it did not contain any of devices the seller told you it will, then the seller maybe not telling you the full story.

See, the keys of a specific card (SN) are usually generated online when the card is registered by the user. So when Ralf emailed you the allkey file. That would be what belong to that specific card the day you requested keys.

Maybe the seller had 2 Cards and sold you the card with less devices and kept the one with most devices.

buying a used card without knowing the seller is sometimes a tricky one.

When it comes to buying DSP card with Software always demand to know the SN of the card then cross check that with Creamware and they will tell you what keys belong to card. Or have the seller give you an inside look at his page to see the keys associated with the SN in question.

I hope the seller did not cheat you off the devices he promised.

good luck
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Post by Micronesia »

On 2005-11-23 14:08, antar wrote:

If Ralf gave you the allkey file that belongs to the SN at hand and it did not contain any of devices the seller told you it will, then the seller maybe not telling you the full story.

See, the keys of a specific card (SN) are usually generated online when the card is registered by the user. So when Ralf emailed you the allkey file. That would be what belong to that specific card the day you requested keys.

Maybe the seller had 2 Cards and sold you the card with less devices and kept the one with most devices.

buying a used card without knowing the seller is sometimes a tricky one.

When it comes to buying DSP card with Software always demand to know the SN of the card then cross check that with Creamware and they will tell you what keys belong to card. Or have the seller give you an inside look at his page to see the keys associated with the SN in question.

I hope the seller did not cheat you off the devices he promised.

good luck
Yes.. im sorry but you are right on this one.
Never jump to conclusions...
He says it was 4 years ago he had used it and that his account probably had been lost during the bankruptcy times..
He claims he had emailed creamware (or Ralf, because i sent him his adress) and that nothing could be done since he would not get a login to his user account where the key for the packs were stored.

He also sent me another allkeys file wich "would probably contain what you want"
But it was simply the standard software all over again, except for my card plus another card with a different serial number.

If this is not fraud - then it defintly a very dumb person to not be checking that he can reach his account before selling me the card.
If i buy a card again im going to try to find a person that lives not far away so i can meet IRL instead.

But lets look at the bright side - the card i got was at least working. It could be broken.
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Post by Micronesia »

Hey - is it broken?

I just loaded up the project i started yesterday. And then it played without problems at all.

However - today when i play this project the master right volume goes down on randomly occations!!
I can clearly see it on my E-mu 1820m meters (the card is routed through my E-mu card)

But the Scope mixer shows no sign that the left master volume goes down..

Great.. Can this be software wise? Im using the analog outs of the Pulsar 2 card for the moment.
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Post by Ralf »

Hi to all,

we are talking about an older second hand card, which is NOT scope project. Every software is locked to the hardwareserialnumber of the card and on this card is no MM-pack and also no SS-Pack.

Regarding the sellers "opinion" that the data had been lost during the bankruptcy times..=> forget it, perfect rubbish.

So let's wait, what the seller has to say for this.

cheers
Ralf


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On 2005-11-24 03:31, Micronesia wrote:
On 2005-11-23 14:08, antar wrote:

If Ralf gave you the allkey file that belongs to the SN at hand and it did not contain any of devices the seller told you it will, then the seller maybe not telling you the full story.

See, the keys of a specific card (SN) are usually generated online when the card is registered by the user. So when Ralf emailed you the allkey file. That would be what belong to that specific card the day you requested keys.

Maybe the seller had 2 Cards and sold you the card with less devices and kept the one with most devices.

buying a used card without knowing the seller is sometimes a tricky one.

When it comes to buying DSP card with Software always demand to know the SN of the card then cross check that with Creamware and they will tell you what keys belong to card. Or have the seller give you an inside look at his page to see the keys associated with the SN in question.

I hope the seller did not cheat you off the devices he promised.

good luck
Yes.. im sorry but you are right on this one.
Never jump to conclusions...
He says it was 4 years ago he had used it and that his account probably had been lost during the bankruptcy times..
He claims he had emailed creamware (or Ralf, because i sent him his adress) and that nothing could be done since he would not get a login to his user account where the key for the packs were stored.

He also sent me another allkeys file wich "would probably contain what you want"
But it was simply the standard software all over again, except for my card plus another card with a different serial number.

If this is not fraud - then it defintly a very dumb person to not be checking that he can reach his account before selling me the card.
If i buy a card again im going to try to find a person that lives not far away so i can meet IRL instead.

But lets look at the bright side - the card i got was at least working. It could be broken.
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Post by bill3107 »

of course it is important to have a copy of the personal page of the seller to be sure that the plug ins are included. At least, it means that the plug ins have been attached before to this serial number. But of course, second hand cards are not as reliable than the brand new ones. I have found out that you never know if the seller took care of the card or not (touching the connections or touching electronic components can unsold them... i made the experience !). My next card will be new ; and i will chose the right plug in in really need instead of looking for packagings at a risky price ...

MAn, do not be desappointed. 6 dsp is rather not enough for serieous work. 12 dsp is a good compromise. Try to get the mixer 2 package and some stuff you really need...

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Post by Micronesia »

Well i tried switching cables and the problem seemed to dissapear, so hopefully it was just the connections.. phew...
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Post by Micronesia »

I feel not to stard a new thread for probably a very simple question.

I have a key for Modular 2 and it should be installed. But when i click on Modular 2 in the routing window there is no menu, and i cant seem to click and drag it to the routing area either.

So how do i get Modular 2 into my project?
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Post by Guest »

Micro.

like Ralf said keys don't simply disappear.
They are "engraved" into the chip of the card. However ralf told you this is a 4 year old card then it is certainly does not have all the software the seller claimed to you. So this is fraud. The seller simply lied to sell you the card.

as for the allkeyfile, open it with a note pad and make sure that the devices correspond with the SN.

I can give you a list of key codes for my card. but you won't be able to install them.

make sure that the Mod 2 Key belong to your SN and make sure that you have downloaded the OXE from the FTP site and installed.


here is a link to the OXE

ftp://ftp.creamware.de/Software/Scope_f ... okeys_OXE/


Put the OXE in C:Scope/App/OXE

close SFP and relaunch it and it will install by iself.


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Post by Immanuel »

I am sorry to say, but as far as I remember, there was no M&M and S&S packs 4 years ago, when the seller claims to have used the card last time ...
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