Triple Display?

4nb · Post by **4nb** » Fri Nov 16, 2001 11:12 pm

Hi everybody
Is there any way to use 3 screens?
10x

janila · Post by **janila** » Wed Nov 21, 2001 2:24 am

Sure, one DualHead (preferrably AGP) and one PCI single head. Of course you can use three single boards and even all of them in PCI slots, but don't expect much from your DSP-boards after that.

4nb · Post by **4nb** » Wed Nov 21, 2001 11:25 am

My card in G450 dual, I will go and buy a pci card 2morrow and try.
so my desktop will be extended to 3 screens? cooooooooooooooool

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Wed Nov 21, 2001 11:31 am

Just remember PCI graphics cards do take a large chunk of PCI bandwidth away from Pulsar. I wouldn't even try to add a 3rd monitor (PCI video) unless you are running an Intel chipset like i815, i845, i850.

kimgr · Post by **kimgr** » Wed Nov 21, 2001 12:41 pm

How about a 4port AGP card from Matrox ?
That should do the job

Kim.

4nb · Post by **4nb** » Wed Nov 21, 2001 10:39 pm

My board is A7M266, there are only the G450 and Luna in my comp.
I use Luna as a sampler, and native plugins 4 the rest of the project.
do you still think I will experiance trouble using 1 pci board 4 third monitor?
thank you (:

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marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Thu Nov 22, 2001 5:02 am

With only luna as sampler (STS3000?) and a good mobo, i don't think you'll have any PCI issue. I'd just make sure before buing another PCI card, that if it doesn't work, you can return it.

4nb · Post by **4nb** » Thu Nov 22, 2001 11:29 am

Thanx 4 d advice!
The shop ppl say they would only let me change the pci card to something else, no moneyback...
Yes, its STS3000 I use, Im very pleased with it.
My plan, is to get a pulsar later next year,
So theres no chanse Luna+Pulsar+pci on A7M?
thanks (--:

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subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Thu Nov 22, 2001 11:51 am

As I said above, I would only attempt it on an Intel chipset.

LHong · Post by **LHong** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 3:14 pm

Are you sure Matrox supports 4port AGP?

On 2001-11-21 12:41, kimgr wrote:
How about a 4port AGP card from Matrox ?
That should do the job

Kim.

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 8:44 pm

I did not try the A7M myself, but, i whould assume it's performing well, subhuman use it in configs at infinitevortex.

I any case, Luna+Pulsar is working great here, this is what i have, well, Luna2+Luna IOBox, + Pulsar1+(xlr version).

janila · Post by **janila** » Tue Nov 27, 2001 3:18 am

The new Matrox G200 supports 4 monitors per card and four cards per computer but only in PCI bus. This way you can get 4 monitors connected but you'd still be compromising the PCI capasity. It's fairly expensive but if you can afford four monitors you should be able to afford the card.

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Wed Nov 28, 2001 1:39 pm

The less you put on pci slots,the best.
if you want to reduce drastically the amount of reverbs or increase audio stuttering but you are happy to see everything with 3 or 4 monitors, go ahead, but in my experience pci bandwidth is very precious and always too narrow.
(don't do it!)
ciao, alfonso.

janow · Post by **janow** » Wed Nov 28, 2001 2:53 pm

Well, I am working with two Matrox DH Cards:

Matrox G450 DH AGP
Matrox G450 DH PCI

It is working very well and without any crashes...4 displays and no crashes.

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Wed Nov 28, 2001 3:21 pm

How many audio channels (via ASIO) are you able to get without PCI overflow? Matrox are known to be hogs of PCI bus if you use the PCI version, it will of course work, and it will of course, not cause crashes. What it will effect, is the PCI throughput, which equates to track count, reverb count, and sampler voices.

I'd be VERY interested to hear how many 44.1khz/16bit tracks you can get, with 3 or 4 masterVerbs in your project and maybe some sampler voices.

For comparison, I've had 2 TimeWorks 4080L (about the same as 3-4 masterVerbs on the PCI), and 40 channels of 16bit/44.1khz audio tracks playing with 32 STS4000 voices, on a CUSL2/933mhz machine, and I had room to add more...

Because if it gives adequate PCI performance even with the Matrox, this is absolutely the most economical way to have more than 2 monitors connected!

janow · Post by **janow** » Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:48 pm

Well, maybe I will check it out during next week, i hope.

I think it is the way how I use my Pulsar Setup.

My favourite effects are external. Pulsar is just a big patchbay, a mixer and a sound source (synths).

Neutron · Post by **Neutron** » Thu Nov 29, 2001 7:47 pm

i read once that these guys

http://www.massmultiples.com

use a card with 4 outs on it and i have seen it a while ago but now i cant find it.

Neutron · Post by **Neutron** » Thu Nov 29, 2001 7:49 pm

http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/g200_mms/home.cfm

yeah that one..g200 is not much different from g400 as long as you dont play any 3d games. the 2d is excellent.

sinix · Post by **sinix** » Fri Nov 30, 2001 6:57 am

If anyone is interested, I found info on a quad AGP solution.

http://www.epocsystem.se/predator_pro.htm

The Predator Pro 4 is an updated version of the successful Colorgraphic Predator series. It is Colorgraphic's 5th generation multi-screen video adapter for either the AGP or PCI bus. Using four S3 Savage4 Pro accelerators the Predator Pro 4 is an excelent performing Multi Screen Graphics card. The Predator Pro 4 PCI/AGP delivers excellent performance with 32MB of 143MHz SGRAM as standard on each section of the adapter, giving a total of 128 MB of video memory. A 300Mhz DAC allows high resolutions and refresh rates. The Predator Pro 4 is fully PC99 and Y2K compliant. In addition both the PCI and AGP Predator Pro 4 are available with a DVD/MPEG option. The PCI version is available with digital flat panel monitor support(DFP). Using Colorgraphic's free drivers for Windows 95/98 and Windows NT, an image can be spread across multiple monitors to create one large virtual display.

Specs:

PC99 Compliant
Y2K Compliant
Four independently programmable S3 Savage4 Pro+ accelerators
Hardware based graphic operations
300 MHz video DAC for extended resolutions up to 1600x1200, non-interlaced @ 85Hz
Power Management
DDC Monitor Communications
Available with DVD/MPEG option (Windows98 only)
DFP either VESA Plug-n-Display MDR20 or DVI1 Connectors
VIDEO MEMORY
143 MHz SGRAM @ 1144 Mbytes/sec. peak memory bandwidth
64 bit Synchronus Memory Bus
32 MEG frame buffer on each port standard
BUS ARCHITECTURE
32 bit PCI 2.1 or 32 bit AGP 1x, 2x or 4X
Multiple boards can be installed in a single system
Adapters use a single PCI or AGP slot
FREE SOFTWARE SUPPORT
Windows 98
Windows NT 4.0

Sounds OK for music work?

- sinix

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Fri Nov 30, 2001 9:02 am

Already reported that card a few weeks ago sinix

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=5&11

There's one other quad AGP card out, but I can't find the link. And it's by a bigger name, too...