I have around 300-350 euro to spend for Xmas and was thinking of getting a couple of Zarg synths but what should I get - there are so many? Solaris 3 is definately on the list but I was wondering about also adding one or two from the following:
RD modules
Red Dwarf EX
Ambient
Dark Star
or non Zarg - Profit 5?
I'd appreciate it if anyone who has experience with these could advise me - I want to spend wisely so there is no point in getting say the Profit 5 or Ambient if Solaris can do everything they can already so I'm looking for what would give me the broadest sonic pallete to choose from (since sound design is more my thing). My initial choice would be for the RD modules and Ambient (as I like the old Waldorf synths) but don't know about the others like EX and Dark Star or if Ambient is too close to solaris to make it worth it.
Feel free to suggest others if you want too
ta
(I already have Vectron, B2000, Minimax, Modular 3 and Flexor)
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Good synths for widest range of sounds
If it were me, I would get Solaris and the RD Modules.
Then I'm not so sure I'd buy another synth.
Solaris seems to me a beast of a synth and sometimes you don't want a beast. But you already have Minimax which is a high quality, less complicated synth. It seems fairly immediate which is something you really need sometimes.
Is there anything else you're setup is really missing at the moment - some high quality effects for example? Vinco, Optimax, something from Sonic Timeworks perhaps?
Then I'm not so sure I'd buy another synth.
Solaris seems to me a beast of a synth and sometimes you don't want a beast. But you already have Minimax which is a high quality, less complicated synth. It seems fairly immediate which is something you really need sometimes.
Is there anything else you're setup is really missing at the moment - some high quality effects for example? Vinco, Optimax, something from Sonic Timeworks perhaps?
Caleb
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I'm not really sure if I need effects. I don't usually bother with mastering effects and although I like sound mangling effects I'm pretty well covered having Interpole, all the Flexor stuff (and Reaktor). I could possibly use a decent reverb but I'd still rather get something to make sounds.
Apparently John Bowen has a Prophet 5 clone too called Prophet Plus - so now I'm wondering what the differences are between this and Profit 5 - maybe I'll get one of those plus Solaris and maybe if I have enough the RD modules too.
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Apparently John Bowen has a Prophet 5 clone too called Prophet Plus - so now I'm wondering what the differences are between this and Profit 5 - maybe I'll get one of those plus Solaris and maybe if I have enough the RD modules too.
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JB's Prophet Plus has some more nifty features like aftertouch, velocity options, and sample osc's than the Profit-5. However, the Profit-5 is based on the P5 Rev-2 which used SSM chips, and the Prophet Plus is based on the Rev-3 CEM chips, which are considered by some to be not as "good." I'm sure that's subjective. Solaris, of course, has everything the Prophet Plus has, plus more. You could get Solaris (which is awesome!!!!) and the Profit-5 for a really punchy analog sound. I haven't tried the Profit-5 myself so I can't really tell you if it sounds any better for real. Maybe somebody else could offer their thoughts?
By the way, don't forget to check out some of the free plugins here on PlanetZ (I've made quite a few myself!).
Have lots of fun and musical enjoyment,
Shayne
By the way, don't forget to check out some of the free plugins here on PlanetZ (I've made quite a few myself!).
Have lots of fun and musical enjoyment,
Shayne
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I've got " only " Solaris, RD modules, Proph@t, Python Pro so I can't comment on the others ...
Proph@t is no longer sold, you can listen here to a small presets showdown I did hastily of Prophit 5 " vs " Proph@t : http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... &forum=5&0
Prophit 5 sounds extremely good but largest sonic palette ? not for me however for later a must have ...
If you buy Red Dwarf EX, you have the RD modules included.
Python Pro ... I don't care too much about the nice and cute physical modelling capabilities but it can do a pretty large spectrum of mayhem sounds, wild FX and angry growling tones, that's mainly how I use it !
Consider and test the Wavelenght bundle for later if you go overbudget this time : http://www.track0.com/wavelength/devices.html
Sooo ... Solaris ( absolutely required + ??? )
Proph@t is no longer sold, you can listen here to a small presets showdown I did hastily of Prophit 5 " vs " Proph@t : http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... &forum=5&0
Prophit 5 sounds extremely good but largest sonic palette ? not for me however for later a must have ...
If you buy Red Dwarf EX, you have the RD modules included.
Python Pro ... I don't care too much about the nice and cute physical modelling capabilities but it can do a pretty large spectrum of mayhem sounds, wild FX and angry growling tones, that's mainly how I use it !
Consider and test the Wavelenght bundle for later if you go overbudget this time : http://www.track0.com/wavelength/devices.html
Sooo ... Solaris ( absolutely required + ??? )
I think the third parties took precautions that in most cases you can't clone with the modular, furthermore a clean GUI ( with pages sometimes ) is way more pratical than plenty of hanging wires everywhere with at times the patch bigger than the screen ( real pain to move constantly what's needed in sight )
And also, for instance, Solaris has 10 pairs of oscillators that you can turn on and off, in the modular you can't do that to save DSPs.
I see no competition between the synths I have and the modular, each one has its territory ...
And also, for instance, Solaris has 10 pairs of oscillators that you can turn on and off, in the modular you can't do that to save DSPs.
I see no competition between the synths I have and the modular, each one has its territory ...
Considering that you already have FleXor (and
M III?), and you are looking for a wide spectrum synth, check this patch I made with at0mic, it's the flexor reproduction of a Minimoog plus the ability to xy morph between all the waveforms in each of the 3 oscillators.
It's a quite fat monster...
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=15&7
M III?), and you are looking for a wide spectrum synth, check this patch I made with at0mic, it's the flexor reproduction of a Minimoog plus the ability to xy morph between all the waveforms in each of the 3 oscillators.
It's a quite fat monster...
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=15&7