I've just been offered a second hand Luna II nice and cheap (£100). I already have a Pulsar II Plus (running on Scope 4). Is it easy to add another card - I was thinking even though it's just another 3 DSP's that might be a reasonable amount of extra headroom - especially for the price? Any potential problems I need to bear in mind - I' have no experience doing this before? Will I need another PCI slot for example?
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Adding a Luna II
You need an extra PCI slot and an STDM cable to plug the two cards together. Creamware dealers should be able to provide the STDM cable. It's mostly just a matter of adding the card, plugging the cable, installing the drivers for the card (same as for Pulsar2 so it'll use what's already there), and you are set.
Might have to mess with IRQs to get both cards to use the same one, and some CSET.INI twiddling to put the Pulsar2 card as the first card that handles all the routing and dirty things.
All in all, it's a trivial operation. I have a big Scope board and a Luna2, and really like the Luna2, I can fill up the Scope and still have space to try alternate things and keep a few more plugins around. For that price, highly suggested you get it
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Might have to mess with IRQs to get both cards to use the same one, and some CSET.INI twiddling to put the Pulsar2 card as the first card that handles all the routing and dirty things.
All in all, it's a trivial operation. I have a big Scope board and a Luna2, and really like the Luna2, I can fill up the Scope and still have space to try alternate things and keep a few more plugins around. For that price, highly suggested you get it
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Not really, pretty much the same hardware. Different types of inputs/outputs I guess. It's (almost) completely transparent in SFP, you just get more DSP available.
The IRQ part isn't too hard, but might not be necessary. If you find things get clicky after you add the card, that might be the cause. Windows might also put both cards automatically on free IRQs. So if you run into the IRQ problem, you can just ring a bell, somebody here can run you thru it
The IRQ part isn't too hard, but might not be necessary. If you find things get clicky after you add the card, that might be the cause. Windows might also put both cards automatically on free IRQs. So if you run into the IRQ problem, you can just ring a bell, somebody here can run you thru it
SoonOne more question. I know that as far as Scope is concerned I will now have 9 DSP's to play with but will the system treat thenm as one soundcard or two?
I was wondering you see if it would be possible to use this as a means of routing the audio out put from Logic into another sequencer so I can make use of my Logic instruments and use Logic almost as an instrument bank into another sequencer - but to do that I would need two soundcards I think.
I was wondering you see if it would be possible to use this as a means of routing the audio out put from Logic into another sequencer so I can make use of my Logic instruments and use Logic almost as an instrument bank into another sequencer - but to do that I would need two soundcards I think.
the applications don't use the card, but the driver (ASIO in this case), so it wouldn't work as Logic already occupies the Scope asio driver.
You could route to another app via wave or wdm, but Logic is rather sensible about it's resources and certainly will spoil the party.
The only thing that comes to my mind in this context is VDAT for recording and Logic as an 'instrument bank'.
But VDAT has a very special workflow - really like the classical tape approach. Imagine it as tape and scissors - you record big blocks and cut out the good parts aferwards.
Those could be arranged by Logic in a second stage of the process, but imho synching parts of VDAT to a running sequencer is not very comfortable.
cheers, Tom
You could route to another app via wave or wdm, but Logic is rather sensible about it's resources and certainly will spoil the party.
The only thing that comes to my mind in this context is VDAT for recording and Logic as an 'instrument bank'.
But VDAT has a very special workflow - really like the classical tape approach. Imagine it as tape and scissors - you record big blocks and cut out the good parts aferwards.
Those could be arranged by Logic in a second stage of the process, but imho synching parts of VDAT to a running sequencer is not very comfortable.
cheers, Tom
Running 2 sequencers and SFP at the same time is going to take a loooooot of memory and resources tho.
I don't find switching between software very pratical either, I've even done a bunch of remote controls in Logic so that I didn't have to switch to SFP every time I wanted to adjust something. I can't imagine adding another sequencer into the equation
I don't find switching between software very pratical either, I've even done a bunch of remote controls in Logic so that I didn't have to switch to SFP every time I wanted to adjust something. I can't imagine adding another sequencer into the equation
But, to answer your question, it would be possible yeah. You'd have to use ASIO for one software, and WDM drivers for the other. You'd get a fair bit of latency, and might end up with ultra-spagetthi routing from hell for very little technological/tactical advantage, more problems and confusion than anything
But quite doable. Gigastudio has it's own interface I guess (GSIF,) I don't know how stable it is.
If you are going to try it anyway, make sure Logic is running in High priority, so that it doesn't die when it's playing in the background (very touchy audio engine (OS doesn't help either but nevermind about that
)) Running it at Real Time usually makes it unstable here.
But quite doable. Gigastudio has it's own interface I guess (GSIF,) I don't know how stable it is.
If you are going to try it anyway, make sure Logic is running in High priority, so that it doesn't die when it's playing in the background (very touchy audio engine (OS doesn't help either but nevermind about that
)) Running it at Real Time usually makes it unstable here.
Got the new card now so I'm just waiting for the cable to arrive. Once it's in do I need to register the card's hardware serial on my page for the synths etc I already have to run on it (ie do they need to be regsitered to it as well as the existing card?) I'm not quite sure how to go about registering it if it's already been registered once to the previous owner.
Just need to plugin the cable. If the hardware is already registered to someone, you can have them contact Creamware to de-register it, and then you can register it. This doesn't cost anything, since no plugins are transferred from one card to another.
If you get any new plugins with the Luna2 that you don't have already, you'll need to register the card to get the keys for those devices, but the plugins you have for your existing card will work fine with the Luna2 plugged in.
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If you get any new plugins with the Luna2 that you don't have already, you'll need to register the card to get the keys for those devices, but the plugins you have for your existing card will work fine with the Luna2 plugged in.
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