Chicago had more murders than New York and LA combined and they are bigger cities regarding population. There are MANY places with better murder rates and that have guns in the USA wich only suggests that it's the environment not the guns wich is the problem. Bad enviroments become breeding grounds for the homicidal and criminally-insane, guns are just a convenient method to fulfill a desire that is there whether a gun is or not.pastor wrote:I don't think the "anti-gun lobby" is specifically is aiming directly at terrorist attacks, more on crime in US itself, like murders. I see Chicago is close to 150 people shot and killed this year up til now. For a city of a couple of millions, that's pretty scary. I don't have the number on people getting murdered by cars, but seeing 145 of 154 homicides where gun shots, i doubt cars is the preferred murder weapon there at least.
Chicago had many bad policies in the past that combined to form a bad environment wich breeds malefactors such as building SkyScraper Housing Projects buildings all over the city wich were difficult to police due to their designs. People need to be spaced out not crammed together by the thousands in small places or you'll get more crime, unsanitary issues, and lack of pride without home ownership. Many of the projects were huge complex's with 20 or more Skyscraper buildings around 17 stories I think and there was MANY of them all over the city e.g. Stateway gardens, Rockwell gardens, Ida B Wells, Henry Horner Projects, Cabrini Green, The Reds, The icki's, Robert Taylor Homes, etc etc . Cities already have more of these murder,etc type crimes than suburbs and Rural areas and projects are like a uber-city within the city. You don't cram thousands of people (many of wich have issues) inside small spaces and expect problems not to occur, and these problems were made worse with welfare policies wich give no incentive to work and build good character; plus a unfair Criminal Justice System and mis-treatment by police wich breeds hatred for Authority and no-love for society. Chicago politicians after about 100 years finally realized these SkyScraper projects were too problematic and thus started destroying them in the early 2000's but by then the damage was already done cause many socio-paths had been bred and spread threw-out the city cause of them and a generational bad-culture is now being passed down to the younger generations as they come. The projects were a unfair and stupid way of dealing with people during a racially segregated time and the problems they brought was easily foreseen.
The under-lying issues in a city has to be addressed i.e. culture, lack of education , poverty, unfair Criminal Justice system, improper policing, etc. Bad culture, poverty, etc are just like Radical-Islam in that they are hereditary. You can take guns away in Chicago but that would not address the under-lying issues and crimes would continue (many of its crimes lead to death; some other bad lifestyles lead to plenty of deaths as well such as drug-use, fornication, etc but often you don't hear much about those things).
When it comes to terrorism BY FAR more people have been killed by vehicles compared to guns here in the USA and I'm sure in all Western Nations when combined. Everyone keep forgetting about the 9/11 attack here in the USA wich lead to almost 3000 people killed by itself by airplanes. All other terrorist acts on American soil add up to about less than 200 people since 2001 so gun terrorism isn't even comparable to vehicle. IIRC there was 13 people killed due to terrorism in the UK since 2010, if you add all the gun terrorism acts from Germany, America, France and UK, etc it BY FAR would not be comparable to vehicles due to 9/11. Plus you have trucks, cars, knives and bombs being used in those Nations to add with 9/11 airplanes. And as we just seen another truck attack just happened in Sweden.pastor wrote: And regarding "..since cars and planes have been used to kill far more people", could you explain what you base this on? It's an honest question.