Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti.
Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti.
P8BC4L...optimized for Native DSP-Cards PCI Support...
has anyone experiences?
i search a board for 3 cards...and pci-graphic (for the moment)
listed since: Juli 2011
current street price: 145,10 € (15.05.2014)
https://www.asus.com/Commercial_Servers ... ns/P8BC4L/
(status: 2014_04_14)
RAM
32GB
CPU
Core i3-3240 (3.4G,L3:3M,iGPU,2C,rev.L1)
http://ark.intel.com/de/products/65690/ ... e-3_40-GHz
Intel Xeon E3-1290 v2 (3.7G,L3:8M,4C,HT,87W)
http://ark.intel.com/de/products/65722/ ... e-3_70-GHz
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https://www.asus.com/Commercial_Servers ... fications/
Processor / System Bus
1 x Socket LGA1155
Intel® Xeon® processor E3-1200 product family
Intel® Xeon® processor E3-1200 v2 product family
Intel® Core™ i3-2100 Processor Family
Intel® Pentium™ G800/G600 Processor Family
Intel® Celeron™ G500/G400 Processor Family
*Refer to http://www.asus.com for CPU Support list
Core Logic
Intel® C202 Chipset
Memory
Total Slots : 4 (2-channel)
Capacity : Maximum up to 32GB UDIMM
Memory Type :
DDR3, 1066/1333/1600, UDIMM, with ECC*1
Memory Size :
Expansion Slots
Total Slot : 7
Slot Location 1 : PCI 32bit/33MHz
Slot Location 2 : PCI 32bit/33MHz
Slot Location 3 : PCI 32bit/33MHz
Slot Location 4 : PCI 32bit/33MHz
Slot Location 5 : PCI 32bit/33MHz
Slot Location 6 : PCI-E x16 (Gen3 X16 Link) *2
Slot Location 7 : PCI-E x8
Follow SSI Location#
Form Factor
ATX (12"x9.6")
ASUS Features
FAN speed control
Rack Ready (Rack and Pedestal dual use)
Storage
SATA Controller :
Intel® C202
6 x SATA2 3Gb/s ports
Intel® Rapid Storage Technology(RST) (For Windows Only)
(Support Software RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 )
LSI® MegaRAID (For Linux/Windows)
(Support Software RAID 0, 1, 10 )
Networking
4 x Intel® 82574L
Graphic
XGI® Z9s with 64MB VRAM *3
Aspeed AST1100 with 64MB VRAM *4
On Board I/O
1 x TPM header
1 x PSU Power Connector (24-pin ATX power connector + 8-pin ATX 12V power connector)
1 x USB connector
2 x USB pin header , Up to 4 Devices
5 x Fan Header , 4pin
1 x Chassis Intruder
2 x Serial Port Header
Back I/O Ports
2 X External USB Port
1 X VGA Port
4 X RJ-45
1 X PS/2 KB/Mouse
Regulatory Compliance
CE, FCC(Class B)
Environment
Operation temperature: 10℃ ~ 35℃
Non operation temperature: -40℃ ~ 70℃
Non operation humidity: 20% ~ 90% ( Non condensing)
Accessories
Gift Box Pack :
1 x User's Guide
1 x Support CD
1 x I/O Shield
6 x SATA 3G Cable(s)
1 x Plate for LGA1155
Bulk Pack :
1 x User's Guide
1 x Support CD
1 x I/O Shield
1 x Plate for LGA1155
Product SKUs
Standard Gift Box Pack
Standard Bulk Pack
Monitoring
CPU Temperature
Fan RPM
Note
*1 DDR3 1600 can only be supported with Intel® Xeon® E3-1200 v2 Processor
*2 Gen3 link can only be supported with Intel® Xeon® E3-1200 v2 Processor
*3 XGI® Z9s with 64MB VRAM (REV1.0x)
*4 ASPEED® AST1100 with 64MB VRAM (REV2.0x)
has anyone experiences?
i search a board for 3 cards...and pci-graphic (for the moment)
listed since: Juli 2011
current street price: 145,10 € (15.05.2014)
https://www.asus.com/Commercial_Servers ... ns/P8BC4L/
(status: 2014_04_14)
RAM
32GB
CPU
Core i3-3240 (3.4G,L3:3M,iGPU,2C,rev.L1)
http://ark.intel.com/de/products/65690/ ... e-3_40-GHz
Intel Xeon E3-1290 v2 (3.7G,L3:8M,4C,HT,87W)
http://ark.intel.com/de/products/65722/ ... e-3_70-GHz
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https://www.asus.com/Commercial_Servers ... fications/
Processor / System Bus
1 x Socket LGA1155
Intel® Xeon® processor E3-1200 product family
Intel® Xeon® processor E3-1200 v2 product family
Intel® Core™ i3-2100 Processor Family
Intel® Pentium™ G800/G600 Processor Family
Intel® Celeron™ G500/G400 Processor Family
*Refer to http://www.asus.com for CPU Support list
Core Logic
Intel® C202 Chipset
Memory
Total Slots : 4 (2-channel)
Capacity : Maximum up to 32GB UDIMM
Memory Type :
DDR3, 1066/1333/1600, UDIMM, with ECC*1
Memory Size :
Expansion Slots
Total Slot : 7
Slot Location 1 : PCI 32bit/33MHz
Slot Location 2 : PCI 32bit/33MHz
Slot Location 3 : PCI 32bit/33MHz
Slot Location 4 : PCI 32bit/33MHz
Slot Location 5 : PCI 32bit/33MHz
Slot Location 6 : PCI-E x16 (Gen3 X16 Link) *2
Slot Location 7 : PCI-E x8
Follow SSI Location#
Form Factor
ATX (12"x9.6")
ASUS Features
FAN speed control
Rack Ready (Rack and Pedestal dual use)
Storage
SATA Controller :
Intel® C202
6 x SATA2 3Gb/s ports
Intel® Rapid Storage Technology(RST) (For Windows Only)
(Support Software RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 )
LSI® MegaRAID (For Linux/Windows)
(Support Software RAID 0, 1, 10 )
Networking
4 x Intel® 82574L
Graphic
XGI® Z9s with 64MB VRAM *3
Aspeed AST1100 with 64MB VRAM *4
On Board I/O
1 x TPM header
1 x PSU Power Connector (24-pin ATX power connector + 8-pin ATX 12V power connector)
1 x USB connector
2 x USB pin header , Up to 4 Devices
5 x Fan Header , 4pin
1 x Chassis Intruder
2 x Serial Port Header
Back I/O Ports
2 X External USB Port
1 X VGA Port
4 X RJ-45
1 X PS/2 KB/Mouse
Regulatory Compliance
CE, FCC(Class B)
Environment
Operation temperature: 10℃ ~ 35℃
Non operation temperature: -40℃ ~ 70℃
Non operation humidity: 20% ~ 90% ( Non condensing)
Accessories
Gift Box Pack :
1 x User's Guide
1 x Support CD
1 x I/O Shield
6 x SATA 3G Cable(s)
1 x Plate for LGA1155
Bulk Pack :
1 x User's Guide
1 x Support CD
1 x I/O Shield
1 x Plate for LGA1155
Product SKUs
Standard Gift Box Pack
Standard Bulk Pack
Monitoring
CPU Temperature
Fan RPM
Note
*1 DDR3 1600 can only be supported with Intel® Xeon® E3-1200 v2 Processor
*2 Gen3 link can only be supported with Intel® Xeon® E3-1200 v2 Processor
*3 XGI® Z9s with 64MB VRAM (REV1.0x)
*4 ASPEED® AST1100 with 64MB VRAM (REV2.0x)
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Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
so far, no socket 1155 motherboards, ZERO, have worked correctly.
socket 1150 is fine.
socket 1150 is fine.
Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
thx
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Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
I'd steer clear of Asus Z87/97s for PCI cards anyways.
Check out Supermicro as they were designed to use lots of RAM and Legacy support is their game....
Check out Supermicro as they were designed to use lots of RAM and Legacy support is their game....
Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
Socket: 1150
asus: not found (only 3x pci-32)
supermicro: found 1 board
this ok?
SuperMicro X10SLA-F
(status: 2014_05_24)
homepage: http://www.supermicro.nl/products/mothe ... 0sla-f.cfm
street price: http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/Off ... micro.html
- Socket: Single Socket H3 (LGA 1150)
- Chipset: Intel® C222 Express PCH
- PCI-32: 5x
- RAM: 32GB
- CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1245V3 - 3.4 GHz - 4 Kerne - 8 Threads - 8 MB Cache-Speicher - LGA1150 Socket - Box
CPU: http://www.intel.de/content/www/de/de/i ... 2c+4th+gen.
CPU-Datasheet: http://www.intel.de/content/www/de/de/i ... brief.html
CPU-street price: http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/Mai ... E3-1200+v3
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Key Features
1. Single socket H3 (LGA 1150) supports
Intel® Xeon® E3-1200 v3, 4th gen.
Core i3, Pentium, Celeron processors
2. Intel® C222 Express PCH
3. Up to 32GB DDR3 ECC 1600MHz
UDIMMs in 4 sockets
4. Dual GbE LAN ports via Intel® i210AT
5. 2x SATA (6Gbps), 4x SATA (3Gbps)
6. 1x PCI-E 3.0 x16, 1x PCI-E 2.0 x4
(in x8), and 5x PCI-32 slots
7. 2x USB 3.0 (1 Type-A + 1 via header)
6x USB 2.0 (4 rear + 2 via header)
8. Integrated IPMI 2.0 with KVM and
Dedicated LAN
9. SATA DOM power connector support
10. VGA D-sub connector, TPM header
asus: not found (only 3x pci-32)
supermicro: found 1 board
this ok?
SuperMicro X10SLA-F
(status: 2014_05_24)
homepage: http://www.supermicro.nl/products/mothe ... 0sla-f.cfm
street price: http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/Off ... micro.html
- Socket: Single Socket H3 (LGA 1150)
- Chipset: Intel® C222 Express PCH
- PCI-32: 5x
- RAM: 32GB
- CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1245V3 - 3.4 GHz - 4 Kerne - 8 Threads - 8 MB Cache-Speicher - LGA1150 Socket - Box
CPU: http://www.intel.de/content/www/de/de/i ... 2c+4th+gen.
CPU-Datasheet: http://www.intel.de/content/www/de/de/i ... brief.html
CPU-street price: http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/Mai ... E3-1200+v3
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Key Features
1. Single socket H3 (LGA 1150) supports
Intel® Xeon® E3-1200 v3, 4th gen.
Core i3, Pentium, Celeron processors
2. Intel® C222 Express PCH
3. Up to 32GB DDR3 ECC 1600MHz
UDIMMs in 4 sockets
4. Dual GbE LAN ports via Intel® i210AT
5. 2x SATA (6Gbps), 4x SATA (3Gbps)
6. 1x PCI-E 3.0 x16, 1x PCI-E 2.0 x4
(in x8), and 5x PCI-32 slots
7. 2x USB 3.0 (1 Type-A + 1 via header)
6x USB 2.0 (4 rear + 2 via header)
8. Integrated IPMI 2.0 with KVM and
Dedicated LAN
9. SATA DOM power connector support
10. VGA D-sub connector, TPM header
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Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
Supermicro is a first-class manufacturer. it's MUCH higher quality than Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, Asrock or any of the other gamer manufacturers. i would expect it to work quite well, especially with the XEON. you'll probably need to add the plastic backplane for non-XEON coolers.
Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
thanks garyb, what do you mean by:
garyb wrote:add the plastic backplane for non-XEON coolers.
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Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
i haven't seen the latest XEON coolers but usually, they attach with screws. XEONs are for commercial use after all.
to use a regular intel cooler, you may need the mounting hardware. it's not a big deal, just something to be sure about or you might have to wait a little longer when you discover you need it and want to order it at the time of the build.
to use a regular intel cooler, you may need the mounting hardware. it's not a big deal, just something to be sure about or you might have to wait a little longer when you discover you need it and want to order it at the time of the build.
Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
ok, i will buy CPU in the box, and ready
...or not?
...or not?
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Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
yes, ready, but the motherboard may need the plastic mount. i believe that it comes with the motherboard, i just don't know for sure. it'd be easy to just send Supermicro an email asking if you need any additional hardware to mount a standard intel cooler for a non-XEON processor.
Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
Gary, can you tell something about why Supermicro is better? Do they use higher quality components and PCBs? I don't run my PCs super hot, and I am used to long actual product life anyway (as far as I know).
I notice that the PCI-E to PCI adapter chip is the same as either MSI og Gigabyte uses. But that is just ONE component.
I notice that the PCI-E to PCI adapter chip is the same as either MSI og Gigabyte uses. But that is just ONE component.
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Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
great idea, i will dogaryb wrote:...send Supermicro an email asking if you need any additional hardware to mount a standard intel cooler for a non-XEON processor.
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Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
well, Supermicro makes boards for corporate servers. they're meant to run 24/7 and for a long time. gamer boards are made to be replaced regularly. gamer boards are only concerned with speed and flashy features. data integrity would be the primary concern for a commercial application like the Supermicro board was made for.Immanuel wrote:Gary, can you tell something about why Supermicro is better? Do they use higher quality components and PCBs? I don't run my PCs super hot, and I am used to long actual product life anyway (as far as I know).
I notice that the PCI-E to PCI adapter chip is the same as either MSI og Gigabyte uses. But that is just ONE component.
does any of this mean that one board would be better than the other? maybe, maybe not....but that board has a lot of PCI slots...
Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
Shorter trace lines to RAM, all sorts of knowledge of extending the functions of the chipset in a tried and true BIOS w/o all sorts of bells and whistles too.
They are just top of the line consistently and profit still seems to be made from their embedded proprietary boards in a large sector of the server market.
Tyan and Foxconn have to build cheaper just to try and get a segment of their market share.
In short they are doing us a favor by adding consumer boards as they surely don't try to please gamers.
But anyone wanting to use large amounts of RAM will see Asus, Gigabyte and even Intel choking at 75% while Supermicro can keep stable performance at 90% of RAM, not even using ECC....
If you need Orchestral Instruments with Scope there's no better board to use for 64 to 128GBs.
These guys have designs for much more than that and long before others.
They are just top of the line consistently and profit still seems to be made from their embedded proprietary boards in a large sector of the server market.
Tyan and Foxconn have to build cheaper just to try and get a segment of their market share.
In short they are doing us a favor by adding consumer boards as they surely don't try to please gamers.
But anyone wanting to use large amounts of RAM will see Asus, Gigabyte and even Intel choking at 75% while Supermicro can keep stable performance at 90% of RAM, not even using ECC....
If you need Orchestral Instruments with Scope there's no better board to use for 64 to 128GBs.
These guys have designs for much more than that and long before others.
Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
the customer service is usually quite good, as well.
Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
I know the gal there by first name now since they even helped me redesign my 1U to accommodate another non Supermicro mobo.....
I keep telling them I want NGFF support and will immediately drop whatever I am using at the time, which is the latest ASRock w/ SAS and M.2 x 4.
So the support I receive from them is incredible and that's just from buying their chassis and 2 x custom PSU connectors, one for the MSI and now ASRock, as the chassis was meant for an older ATX mobo.
I haven't used a Supermicro mobo for years now but that DAW still runs Gigastudio really well w/ old Raptors, and I even sold the Scope cards and stuck in the ancient Lynx Stereo card from the late '90s.
I will drop the recent ASRock design and sell it as soon as Supermicro can get the PCI-e SSD M.2 connectors cranking at 4x speeds.
Those demons are so fast you can get the same latency as using your RAM for samples as one of these Samsung XP941s...
Plus a small mATX or MINI ITX can become a deadly DAW, expect to see these this summer.
Supermicro has an mATX board that rocks, but the only problem is the PCI-e SSD connector for M.2 is 2x, the same as our XITE-1 connectors. Fine for audio needs, but for streaming no different than the SATA III bottleneck @ 500+MBps.
I keep telling them I want NGFF support and will immediately drop whatever I am using at the time, which is the latest ASRock w/ SAS and M.2 x 4.
So the support I receive from them is incredible and that's just from buying their chassis and 2 x custom PSU connectors, one for the MSI and now ASRock, as the chassis was meant for an older ATX mobo.
I haven't used a Supermicro mobo for years now but that DAW still runs Gigastudio really well w/ old Raptors, and I even sold the Scope cards and stuck in the ancient Lynx Stereo card from the late '90s.
I will drop the recent ASRock design and sell it as soon as Supermicro can get the PCI-e SSD M.2 connectors cranking at 4x speeds.
Those demons are so fast you can get the same latency as using your RAM for samples as one of these Samsung XP941s...
Plus a small mATX or MINI ITX can become a deadly DAW, expect to see these this summer.
Supermicro has an mATX board that rocks, but the only problem is the PCI-e SSD connector for M.2 is 2x, the same as our XITE-1 connectors. Fine for audio needs, but for streaming no different than the SATA III bottleneck @ 500+MBps.
Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
Is that what the word 'might' means in 'might be nifty' ?dawman wrote:I'd steer clear of Asus Z87/97s for PCI cards anyways.
http://forums.planetz.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=32004
Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
Might is a crap shoot. Odds are far greater if you want legacy support, to go with those whose strengths are Legacy and high RAM bandwidth support.
If I were a gamer, MSI/NBC, ChiggaByte, AZues and ASSCock Fatality would be my choices.
If I were a gamer, MSI/NBC, ChiggaByte, AZues and ASSCock Fatality would be my choices.
Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
Well, hopefully in the land between 'nifty' and 'crap shoot' - I've still made the right choice with the ASUS Z87C
Re: Intel board , core i3/Xeon E3 , 32GB , 5x pci , DSP opti
Spielraum
If you buy this motherboard, I'd love to hear about your experiences with it. Another PlanetZ member bought one. First he was happy about it. Then, after two months or so, he had issues with the PCI boards swapping orders. Since then, we didn't hear more from him here at PlanetZ. So we never got to hear, what the origin of the problem was.
Immanuel
If you buy this motherboard, I'd love to hear about your experiences with it. Another PlanetZ member bought one. First he was happy about it. Then, after two months or so, he had issues with the PCI boards swapping orders. Since then, we didn't hear more from him here at PlanetZ. So we never got to hear, what the origin of the problem was.
Immanuel
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