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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 4:15 pm
by rodos1979
Hello!
I want to use an octaver along with my guitar which is plugged in to Pulsar. The Pitch Shift module of CW, does not do the job adequately. I need better quality.
Are you aware of any Scope device, ModIII module or Native plug-in that is of good quality and does that?
Any help appreciated!
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:26 pm
by dehuszar
STS-5000.
I just started to play with it before I totally tore apart my system.
It's great for changing the range. I didn't play as much as I wanted to, but I got decent results tossing my cello up an octave. I don't know if I'll get a convincing violin out of it, but in a mix I could probably fool most non-violinists.
Sam
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 6:34 am
by Immanuel
Can the STS5000 do it realtime on an incomming signal? I also often miss a good octaver/pitch shifter. The one from Creamware is very strange to me, and I can not get the "stomp box" results I want.
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 6:35 am
by marcuspocus
No, it only work on samples
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 4:24 pm
by rodos1979
So, it seems that there is no other option except the CW Pitch Shifter.... pity!...
Any VST plug-ins that could do it?
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 5:22 pm
by Herr Voigt
Ultra-Vox or Voice Machine should do that. But I don't know if they do it really in realtime. I'm afraid the signal comes out a bit later, maybe on a modern DAW this time difference is very small ...
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 5:43 am
by samplaire
On 2003-08-07 17:24, rodos1979 wrote:
CW Pitch Shifter.... pity!...
Pity shifter
I haven't seen anything very good at it. Even the Digidesign's DPP-1 plugin (TDM only I'm afraid) isn't that good
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:41 am
by Immanuel
The absurd thing is, that stomp boxes for guitar has done an adecuate job for years (atleast for guitar use).
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:53 am
by bosone
Steve Vai uses an eventide harmonizer which does miracles... (in the hands of steve vai.. probably in MY hand will sound like crap!!).
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:08 am
by deejaysly
dehuszar: "tossing my cello up an ocatve"
Nice! lol
Sorry... couldn't resist.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:42 pm
by visilia
On 2003-08-08 07:41, Immanuel wrote:
The absurd thing is, that stomp boxes for guitar has done an adecuate job for years (atleast for guitar use).
Afaik, these octaver stompboxes aren't 'real' pitchshifters. They work more like a suboscillator on analog synths, which means that a new waveform is generated that sounds an octave above or below the original signal. So it's not the original signal that is pitch shifted.
cheers,
vincent
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:47 pm
by Immanuel
I never tried them on anything else than guitar. While I didn't like the octavers I tried, I often liked pitchshifter (fifths especially) - these are the ones, I say did it adecuately. But I didn't know, It was done the way you explain it - thanks.
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:02 pm
by visilia
Well, I'm not completely sure about it, so somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:00 pm
by darkrezin
You are probably right.. since the signal from the stomp box goes thru the guitar amp, it's probably fairly easy to miss this.
Also, the best pitching technology (Eventide in my experience) is very expensive, and even then not perfect.
peace