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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 1:55 pm
by mano
I am thinking of switching to mostly using XTC mode soon, last time I tried it felt great not having to deal with too much "setup" and the transition to the "sit and make music" phase seemed quicker...

So... So I know there arr many XTC threads around the existing categories, but it'd be sweet to have an ALL-XTC forum, and maybe even to move the existing XTC tips/problems to it.

Maybe I'm just the only one wishing this? :grin: Dunno, just post if you think this is a good idea (or not a good one and why :wink: )

Regards,

-mano

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 3:55 pm
by six_wax
I think this is a great idea, especially since there is so little documentation, and so much valuable user knowledge.

BTW-- if you haven't already, please respond to the XTC users poll that STW is doing. It's important that XTC users speak up on this.

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 5:37 pm
by Mr Arkadin
I'm a Mac user and I think this is a great idea cos I'm getting bored of all the XTC posts in the General Forum.

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 6:56 pm
by samplaire
On 2002-12-06 17:37, TonyR wrote:
I'm a Mac user and I think this is a great idea cos I'm getting bored of all the XTC posts in the General Forum.
:wink:

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 6:21 am
by Mr Arkadin
I honestly would never use XTC mode (and I'm not just saying that cos I'm a Mac user!). The SFP environment suits my way of thinking. I always like to get dirty and get round the back of equipment and patch stuff and SFP is like software version of doing that, whereas I never liked the 'hidden' way everything is routed in VST, I can't always see what's going on and I think SFP is more flexible, certainly with my 'old-school' way of thinking; all you youngsters who grew up in VST are probably quite happy in XTC mode.


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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 9:26 am
by kimgr
I would use it if it worked as well as Logic's DAE integration, but I doubt if that will ever happen.
(I mean Creamware creating a "CAE", a Creamware Audio Engine that would allow the host to hook directly into the hardware.)

Kim.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:40 am
by six_wax
Have you tried XTC, KG?

It's really quite convenient, so long as you are comfortable with the flexibility of the DAW's mixer and routing.

I find that XTC works splendidly with SX for 90% of my applications. 'Course, if I want to do some freaky modular work I can always duck back to SFP...

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:39 am
by Nestor
I am not an XTC user, and I'll probably never be one. Nevertheless, I think it's a great idea for you, users of XTC, to have everything toguether and a bit better organized. That coudn't harma anybody, but helping. Great idea. :smile:

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 7:04 am
by Lotuz
On 2002-12-06 13:55, mano1.com wrote:
I am thinking of switching to mostly using XTC mode soon, last time I tried it felt great not having to deal with too much "setup" and the transition to the "sit and make music" phase seemed quicker...

So... So I know there arr many XTC threads around the existing categories, but it'd be sweet to have an ALL-XTC forum, and maybe even to move the existing XTC tips/problems to it.

Maybe I'm just the only one wishing this? :grin: Dunno, just post if you think this is a good idea (or not a good one and why :wink: )

Regards,

-mano
Good idea. :smile:

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 7:11 am
by Steve-o
Good idea - what about assembling a wishlist/buglist and send it over to Creamware to demonstrate our interest in XTC !?

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:49 pm
by Nestor
That is a good idea. The problem is that Creamware is between the sword and the wall, (as we say in Spanish language, which means in trouble under pressure). People using XTC are very few, and so, the interest of the company upgrading and bettering it is also small. Of course, you have paid for it and it doesn’t matter how many people are using it or not, you have to be served properly cos it’s not your fault.

Anyway… excellent idea, cos if nobody shows interest soon, I think this feature will disappear next year as it is too much work and spend time for just a few concerned people.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:56 pm
by mano
Since yesterday I tried to focus on the XTC mode and find it very convenient indeed... Nothing bad to report. It feels great not having to switch apps all the time, among other things...

I still love the regular SFP mode, but I believe that CW should work on integrating the two modes so they are not so much "appart" anyway. The duplication of the devices is an example... Of course there are technical reasons why things are done the way they currently are, but hey customers don't care :wink: technology allows any company to re-invent new solutions, and the user-oriented factor is up to them.

I am glad you guys replied, it looks like John should consider the idea if he comes accross this thread (hey there John :smile: ).

You guys take care
Regards


ps: hey Nestor, loved the spanish expression :smile:

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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:10 pm
by six_wax
I totally agree. (I also think more people are using XTC than "classic" users are aware.)

XTC mode really kicks ass. It makes SFP as user-friendly & convenient in traditional applications as UAD & Powercore. Plus, you can always duck over to "classic" mode if you need to wire up somehting twisted.

kgrush had a great idea in another thread, in integrating the SFP routing environment into XTC mode, much like the Logic envrionment exposes. I hope something like this comes to pass.

In the mean time, I hope more users and 3rd party plug vendors (please please please Kim!) get behind XTC.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:51 pm
by doodyrh
If there were a way of listing all active topics I'd be all for it. With about 25 sections already I'm struggling to keep up.
On 2002-12-08 12:56, mano1.com wrote:
ps: hey Nestor, loved the spanish expression :smile:
From today 'between a rock and a hard place' is no longer part of my vocabulary.
Reminds me of a Uruguayan friend who wanted to 'kill two birds with one stone' (meaning achieve two results with one action).

Somehow it came out as 'I'm gonna put two rocks on a bird'.
Come again?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 2:06 pm
by Nestor
Well, you guys are making me thing about XTC as a possibility, I didn’t know you liked it as much as that. I’ve never done anything with it yet in fact, absolutely nothing. I didn’t feel attracted by the way, the idea in itself. Perhaps it’s wrong to judge it so quickly. I need reconsidering the possibility to eventually working with this environment too. Right now, I don’t even have it installed.

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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 5:15 am
by six_wax
If you like your DAW mixer , then XTC rocks. If not, then there's always the SFP mixers :razz:

Some people have preferneces for the *sound* of some virtual mixers over others [e.g. SFP 2448 vs. VST vs. Sonar's mixer...] though my ears are not that good...

I dig using XTC. I just wish more of the CW plugs were usable in that mode [e.g. SonicTimeworks]. I *can* tell the difference in sound quality between crappy plugs and good ones!

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 1:44 am
by mano
This thread is taking off, I'm glad.
Hopefully we'll see this forum popping up one day :wink:

crossing fingers

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 11:43 am
by John Cooper
Hopefully we'll see this forum popping up one day :wink:
<a href="http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewforum ... 0">POP!</a>

:smile:
-John

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 7:04 pm
by six_wax
Thanks John!

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 12:23 am
by mano
Thank you!