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Posted: **Tue Jul 09, 2002 1:07 pm**

Just a thought...

Logic seem to handle ASIO/2 very well, with just a little bit of overload from time-to-time; but should be fine with a little bit of tweaking.
Now, does Cubase handle ASIO/2 better since, afterall, Steinberg is the creator of this format.

Thanks!
Z

Posted: **Wed Jul 10, 2002 6:44 am**

Most Steinberg users have very little to do whith Emagic products. So we don´t know exactly I believe. Some others have to speak forward in order to give you the right answer! We Nuendo users paradoxically always tend to believe Emagic does everything better than Steinberg. At least we are accustomed in shouting at Steinberg if we see something else that is not on our platform...

But I can tell you that most of the performance issues are related to the "drivers" that are supplied whith the card! "RME" drivers are famous for the superb Asio performance. Also "Soundscape" has very low latency (3ms) and never crashes. But DSP cards in general do have larger latencies (also the RME Multiface). It´s not possible for most DSP cards to achieve an ultra low latency. However, Asio-2 includes things like "direct monitoring", "sample accurate sync" and some more things that you should be able to take advantage of, wether it´s Emagic or Steinberg....

Regards,
Sunshine

Posted: **Wed Jul 10, 2002 6:23 pm**

Ahhh. Cool beans! Thanks for the enlightenment!

Still waiting on Guitar Center to get their SX xgrade from Steinberg...

The only thing I wish SX have is the CD/DVD authoring suite as with tripleDAT, Samplitude , and Cubase's Nuendo counterpart.

Samplitude seems to be my natural upgrade from tripleDAT since the environmental operations is very similar on both! But, with that, I wonder how Samplitude handles ASIO/2 vial SFP 3.1a/Pulsar II....

Still, I can't pass up that Steinberg deal. Heck, I'll even take on Emagic's Ooops! I meant Apple's offer to xgrade free to MacLogic - just for kicks; a sort of compensation?!

Skoal!
Z

Posted: **Wed Jul 10, 2002 6:36 pm**

I have good news for you

With Samplitude I get zero sample latency, when routing from track one to a Pulsar Channel (I even played with the fader to check, if this was realy real), and then back to Samplitude to record it as track 2. I used 24bit interleaved drivers.

Immanuel

Posted: **Wed Jul 10, 2002 6:45 pm**

Fantastic! I think I found tripleDAT's successor! I should have looked more into Samplitude then! I thought it was only a wave editor like Wavelab. Cool! cool! cool!

Although, we're having a heatwave at 90deg! WHEW!

Hey, maybe Creamware will succeed tripleDAT with a new ProDAW called HeatWave! That sounds good!

Dang! this heat is probably getting to me! Letting my imaginations burn away again!

Thanks for the update!

Posted: **Wed Jul 10, 2002 11:46 pm**

Fruity gives me 0ms latency too. Someone told me this is cos normal latency is calculated two-way, I/O. Fruity only uses one-way, Out, and thus indicates to only use half of the latency.

Posted: **Thu Jul 11, 2002 10:00 am**

I finally downloaded and installed the Samplitude Producer demo and I can only say one thing: "Freakin' A!". This is exaclty what I was looking for in a DAW other than tripleDAT! I wish I would have known more about Samplitude back when I was looking for another HDR. Oh well. I'm definitely going to get it for sure!
I installed it in my laptop (with a cheap, embedded 16bit sound chip) and was already on the go with it as if I was using tripleDAT! Now, I can't wait to install it on my CreamWare box!

[ This Message was edited by: The Z Station on 2002-07-11 11:56 ]

Posted: **Thu Jul 11, 2002 12:48 pm**

What do you think of sound quality?
Believe me that what you hear in this baby is what you will get on cd when you burn unlike Cubase.If it had midi spec of Cubas/Logic it would be a killer.

On 2002-07-11 11:00, The Z Station wrote:
I finally downloaded and installed the Samplitude Producer demo and I can only say one thing: "Freakin' A!". This is exaclty what I was looking for in a DAW other than tripleDAT! I wish I would have known more about Samplitude back when I was looking for another HDR. Oh well. I'm definitely going to get it for sure!
I installed it in my laptop (with a cheap, embedded 16bit sound chip) and was already on the go with it as if I was using tripleDAT! Now, I can't wait to install it on my CreamWare box!

[ This Message was edited by: The Z Station on 2002-07-11 11:56 ]

Posted: **Thu Jul 11, 2002 1:14 pm**

On 2002-07-11 13:48, Music Manic wrote:
What do you think of sound quality?

Well, going through my laptop's feable speakers (KDS Valiant 6480), it sure handled my mp3s well! So far it sounded fantastic through those tiny speakers, and Samp is using the embedded sound chip! So, I think it should sound as good as Logic or Cubase going through my Pulsar II+.

In that case, Samp is a clear winner! I don't really need the sophisticated MIDI features Logic and Cubase have so I could do without them. Samp is a PC based DAW - oh yeah, there's the original Amiga code but the platform lacks any pro-audio 24/96 hardware solution. - Too bad!

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Go and make music, regardless!

[ This Message was edited by: The Z Station on 2002-07-11 14:22 ]

Posted: **Thu Jul 11, 2002 6:11 pm**

Samplitude does have 24/96 version.
On the subject of drivers can Samplitude use drivers for it's zero latency feature.
A little stuck on the drivers Pulsar/Scope offers and what they relate too.
Thx!

Posted: **Thu Jul 11, 2002 8:13 pm**

On 2002-07-11 19:11, Music Manic wrote:
Samplitude does have 24/96 version.

I was referring to Amiga's lack of 3rd party 24/96 pro-audio hardware developers. There is one company, which eludes me right now, that makes a 16bit sound card based on the Analog Devices early SHARC DSP, but in comparison in today's PC line, is considered outdated.

So, until then, I'm still stuck with WinPCs. Cool beans!