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I just bought a new PC ( Asus P4T, intell P4 2 Gig, and 1024MB of PC-800 RIMM Memory + the regular stuff ), but I was wondering, should I install Windows 98SE or Windows XP Pro?
I have a Pulsar 2 with all the software versions and i work on Logic 5.
Does anybody know if 98SE recognizes the P4 and the 1024mb of RIMM memory, I mean, wich OS will give the strongest and best performance ( maybe even ME?) It seems that XP still gives a lot of trouble. I don't know how to explain, it just doesn't "feel" wright

98 will only take 1Gb if you do a tweak, otherwise it'll give you grief.

I moved from 98SE to XP Home and it was the best move for me - Pulsar has never been so stable. On the otherhand others have had problems with XP and even gone back to 98...

Personally I'd go for XP. It's the way of the future and if you get it happy then you're set...

The only problem I have with XP and pulsar is the SPDIF input seems to "tick" the audio coming thru glitches...
And everytime I close Logic Audio I get the message " The instruction on 0x0f378fae points to memory on 0x414d434d. The read- or write function ("written") on the memory has malfunctioned"
Further XP looks great and seems very stable.

i have much better performances in xp

imho 98SE is too much instable, winME works better (improved kernel) if you disable some microsoft crap (System Restore)
XP promises more stability although the quantity of ms crap is increased from 500MBytes (Me installation) to 1.5 GBytes and things to disable are MUCH more
Effectively from my tests XP is slightly stabler, but is too extended and complicated for my use (music)

My bad/good points for 98SE:

-too much fragile
-DOS based (mostly 16bit)
-quite light & simple
-installation: 100MBytes

My bad/good points for ME:

-more stable than 98SE, less than XP
-less DOS based than 98SE
-System Restore *disutility*
-installation: 500MBytes

My bad/good points for XP:

-more stable than others (I succeed to get BSOD also with XP)
-Lots of services and *disutilities* to disable
-Difficult to tweak: logical unsorted menu and settings over the entire system. Some common settings normally unreachable without tweaking programs (i.e. autoplay on CD drives)
-installation: 1500MBytes


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: StratoFede on 2002-05-17 08:17 ]</font>

The main point is that in most cases if you have problems that cause instability on 98se, winxp will be better but still not perfect.
On an ideal system you should be able to run either without too much trouble.

What I'm saying is don't expect an OS change to solve all your problems.

Track down any driver/device/bios settings that may be causing you grief, if you don't have too many important projects I suggest getting to grips with XP, it is the future anyway, so sooner you know it the better.
Or consider dual booting.

When I tried Pulsar 3.01 under Windows 2000 it clearly did not perform as well as it did under windows 98. Some people said that windows xp performed better than windows 2000.

With a computer that powerful I would try XP and see how well it goes. I have spdif in problems under windows 98 and 3.01. I have not yet tried the spdif in with SFP. I think the spdif problems are something that has been going on for a while.

I never had any problems with spdif under win 98se.. only now with this new computer and XP. I don't think it's the XP though..

XP Pro rocks
super stable
no problem
viva microsoft

blam!

Wow,
Hey I just took an operating systems class for my BSIT and we decided that Linux was the way of the future for development systems. However, in terms of proprietary applications like this,

not a single person has mentioned Windows 2000. The benefit of 2000 versus everything else here is that it has the NT kernal, has a couple of service packs out and a lot of the bugs. XP is newer and still has some more development in its lifecycle.

I'm using Windows98lite myself and will probably have to upgrade with the next generation of Cubase software. When that happens, I'll probably go 2000 since its a little farther along in its development cycle.

Academics will always go for Linux - helps their anti-corporate image

winXP does not have NT-kernel. It is a NT-os.

Immanuel

ohmelas,

You will not get the same performance under windows 2000. It is a fine operating system but not for the Pulsar unless you don't care about the latency.

i use 98lite,still. works grrrreat.

I use 98 LITE sleek. It is great.

Hey Guys,

I'm still using 98lite myself. That seems to be the standard still. It's fast and viable. The only things on the horizon to change this drastically for me is the upgrade to Cubase SX. In order to do that I will have to abandon 98.

Windows XP is trying really hard to get those businesses like ours to upgarde to their stuff. Check out this web site for reasons Microsoft says we should:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/ ... /top10.asp

All in all, I'm not convinced it will make my system run faster or smoother. I realize that with only 256MB Ram currently Win98lite is still my best bet---until Cubase SX is stable and reliable and out.

Hey Guys, academic types like myself do like UNIX. That's what it was designed for. Linux happens to be a pretty cool OS but the whole point of BeOS was to create a flavor of UNIX/Linux that would work for artists like ourselves. Unfortunately they went bankrupt.

The kernal they're using is in use on the Sony Oxford console (also using SHARC technology like us!), Sony DMX1000 consol (also using SHARC technology like us), the Tascam SX-1 (uses a BeOs kernal for its OS), and some other stuff. So the technology is there. Unfortunately for us I wish Cubase would port their Cubasis and have emagic do their Micrologic for free out there. Remember how MOTU brok into their market? They gave away their software for free to create a user base!

For all practical reasons here, this is academic. BeOS plans by CW were tanked sometime ago even though the brochure that I still have says they were going in that directin. I guess that didn't happen huh?

Okay so the way to go is:

Windows XP if you're buying new system. If you have an existing system, Win98lite is still the way to go per many users on this forum. I concure wholeheartedly.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: ohmelas on 2002-05-21 19:14 ]</font>

I have not moved my creamware machine from ME because it has really great midi timing. can some of you XP users try this?

get a short sample like a hihat, and put it in STS, or make a "tick" sound on a synth.

then make a sequence in your favourite sequencer of all 64th notes all the same velocity.

speed your sequencer up untill it plays the notes so fast they become a tone. it should have no variation or glitches.

it should not waver at all. winME is the best for me in that respect and i find it important, it means the notes are hitting accurately. because it works so well (just for that) i leave it on win ME, i had to do almost as much reducing of unwanted "features" as you do with XP.

The machine is just running creamware, it is on a network and that causes no problems.

my other machines are XP, XP, and win98 (OASYS)

BTW "loopback devices" like hubis and midi yoke will screw it up as well.

There is one FACT...

Pulsar was originally designed FOR WINDOWS 98SE. Now Creamware is TRYING to adapt it to W 2000 and W XP, but the version are BETA Tester, you can see it in this forums, the time that users spend trying to make it work under Xp or 2000.

If you are consience that your PC has to be a DAW, not a familiar PC to work properly with AUDIO (that means only installing WHAT YOU REALLY NEED to use, only audio stuff, and make one instalation and keep all like that) you should use Windows 98SE.

If you want to use your ICQ, Messenger, Outlook, Microsoft Office, Audiogalaxy, Quake 2, RealPlayer, PLayboy Web Page Suscription, and take pictures with your Web Came, until Sequencing with Cubase and playing a Pulsar Synth, you should definitively go for XP.

If you are the DAW case, ONLY daw, 98SE is your choice.

May be in a closer future there will be a SFP software version that works under Windows XP, but for this moment, there are only problems.

Creamware avoid making the Windows 200 support drivers and software, and their have their reasons. Now for a marketing thing Microsoft says "XP is the MULTIMEDIA Operating System" and everybodi moove to that OS, and of course pay for it. Then Creamware is obligated to make the drivers and all the stuff...

E Mail Creamware Technical Support and ask them, and depending on what they say decide...

I hope it had help...

DJATWORK

""May be in a closer future there will be a SFP software version that works under Windows XP, but for this moment, there are only problems.""

The first SFP gave me some problems, also because I was trying to upgrade a pré-SFP install. But for some installs now, everythings runs very smooth. I'm so happy they fixed dual CPU support in SFP. It really works without a glitch for me. XP is most stable. If I were not on XP (for dual CPU support), I'd get 98SE, my other favorite OS. Or maybe maybe ME, as Neutron says, for it's midi timing...

The same for me!
The Dual CPU don´t let me choose many options... the true, is that the most stable OS for me is Windows NT4 with Service Pack 6, but is a little bit in the past... I´ll always miss NT4...
Now I´m dealing with XP or 2000, install one of those, and then format and install the otherone...
If I wern´n a Dual CPU user, I´ll definitively choose 98SE with 98Lite... really stable and faster than XP or Y2K (at least for me)

As you can see in this thread there is not black or white...the best anyone can do, is try the OS options (98SE or XP) and then choose the best...

DJATWORK