I know this is unlikely as no-one has said anything here already, but has anyone heard any details at all of Powersampler II? I'm holding out for details of this before upgrading from Powersampler I with Luna 2.5 software. I've seen no info at all since the press release on creamware.com.
Cheers,
Will
Powersampler II
In case anyone else is holding out for this, I received the following reply to the question above from Creamware about a month ago:
Thanks,
Will
Haven't heard any more from them on this, so I thought I'd check here again in case anyone else has.There will be an upgrade to Power Sampler II but we don't know what the
price will be yet.
Best regards
CreamWare Audio Solutions Sales
USA and Canada
Thanks,
Will
Hello w_ellis.
Could you, as an owner of a Powersampler1, tell me was it a good buy? (as I'm thinking of buying a PowerSampler II very soon)
All I really want to know is were you happy or disapointed with the dsp power of the card. If you'd be so kind, you could also check out my other topic named "Should I buy PowerSampler2", and answer if you just have time.
Cheers
Tomi
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Could you, as an owner of a Powersampler1, tell me was it a good buy? (as I'm thinking of buying a PowerSampler II very soon)
All I really want to know is were you happy or disapointed with the dsp power of the card. If you'd be so kind, you could also check out my other topic named "Should I buy PowerSampler2", and answer if you just have time.
Cheers
Tomi
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When you get the hold of that STS5000, your 3DSP will seems to be like a piece of small cake to it, it's a hungry monstor!!. get it only if you have more DSP or planning to get more than 7DSP in order to fully use STS5000.
just my 2cents.
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just my 2cents.
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Hi Tomi,
In terms of the Creamware hardware, I've been very happy indeed. I bought a Powersampler first and then was so pleased with the vast number of free synths and effects that I decided to buy a Pulsar II SRB as well to add 6 more DSP.
I do think that their upgrade policies are a bit weird though, to say the least, so be very careful about which product to go for. The Pulsar II has an excellent set of devices (including STS3000) which are really far more than is offered with Powersampler.
I think that unless you're really serious about sampling and need the extra power of STS5000, then you probably want to consider the Pulsar II instead. I'm currently looking into ways of changing to having a Pulsar II with my Powersampler.
The main thing is the routing environment and the zero latency (if you don't route the audio into your audio sequencer). I think it's really quite a luxury to be able to do that and feels like a proper hardware instrument.
Obviously read all the useful information in this forum about what computer to put it in, as some seem much worse than others. I've got a PIII 500 on a BX motherboard which is brilliant (if a bit weedy for VST plugins!). Athlon chipsets on the whole have a bad reputation with Creamware hardware.
Good luck,
Will
P.S. My main advice is think carefully before buying (and try it out if you can) so you make sure it will work for you and you get what you want, but it can be great.
P.P.S. If you're wanting more help, give me an idea of what you expect to be able to do with it and I can let you know if I think you'll be able to do it.
In terms of the Creamware hardware, I've been very happy indeed. I bought a Powersampler first and then was so pleased with the vast number of free synths and effects that I decided to buy a Pulsar II SRB as well to add 6 more DSP.
I do think that their upgrade policies are a bit weird though, to say the least, so be very careful about which product to go for. The Pulsar II has an excellent set of devices (including STS3000) which are really far more than is offered with Powersampler.
I think that unless you're really serious about sampling and need the extra power of STS5000, then you probably want to consider the Pulsar II instead. I'm currently looking into ways of changing to having a Pulsar II with my Powersampler.
The main thing is the routing environment and the zero latency (if you don't route the audio into your audio sequencer). I think it's really quite a luxury to be able to do that and feels like a proper hardware instrument.
Obviously read all the useful information in this forum about what computer to put it in, as some seem much worse than others. I've got a PIII 500 on a BX motherboard which is brilliant (if a bit weedy for VST plugins!). Athlon chipsets on the whole have a bad reputation with Creamware hardware.
Good luck,
Will
P.S. My main advice is think carefully before buying (and try it out if you can) so you make sure it will work for you and you get what you want, but it can be great.
P.P.S. If you're wanting more help, give me an idea of what you expect to be able to do with it and I can let you know if I think you'll be able to do it.
Do you mean VIA chipsets? There's some nice AMD's like Sub used to sell one, but maybe check out Creamware User Setups if you want info on real-life user setups......
On 2002-06-17 15:23, w_ellis wrote:
Athlon chipsets on the whole have a bad reputation with Creamware hardware.
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more has been done with less
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Depending on the software interface you choose (ASIO/MME/EASI etc.) you will get differing amounts of latency on routing your STS to your sequencer. Most commonly used is ASIO, which Logic and Cubase can both take advantage of. This will allow latencies as low as a few milliseconds, although you will need plenty of CPU to manage this.
I run with 13ms of latency quite happily on a P3 500 and don't find that it's a big deal. Having said that, I do tend to monitor via an external mixer directly from the Luna, rather than via Cubase.
I run with 13ms of latency quite happily on a P3 500 and don't find that it's a big deal. Having said that, I do tend to monitor via an external mixer directly from the Luna, rather than via Cubase.
ok, this is interresting because i have been thinking about adding a powersampler II to my computer.
it's a dual pentium III 1000 mboard, but with only one CPU.. unfortunately noone here in norway is able to find a fcgpa cpu for me
so it seems like it will stay lonely, that cpu.. but i've also heard that powersampler doesnt like dual cpu's?
my sequencer is Sonar... my audio card is midiman/roland rbus card (midiman delta really)
oh.. and the mboard is a VIA one.. logic audio didnt work at all on the system, but Sonar is very happy... so is ACID and cool edit... will powersampler work??
it's a dual pentium III 1000 mboard, but with only one CPU.. unfortunately noone here in norway is able to find a fcgpa cpu for me
so it seems like it will stay lonely, that cpu.. but i've also heard that powersampler doesnt like dual cpu's?my sequencer is Sonar... my audio card is midiman/roland rbus card (midiman delta really)
oh.. and the mboard is a VIA one.. logic audio didnt work at all on the system, but Sonar is very happy... so is ACID and cool edit... will powersampler work??
There are quite a lot of posts on this forum about problems using Creamware cards with VIA chipsets, which are probably worth you reading before buying a Powersampler (just do a search on VIA). There are people using VIA chipsets, but it seems that quite a few have had some sort of difficulty along the way.
The problems are likely to be less severe with the Luna II hardware (which you would get with Powersampler), as you cannot run as many devices as with Pulsar II, for example. The main areas affected by VIA issues are Reverbs and Samplers, so be sure you understand what the issues could be beforehand.
Secondly, you should check out how you might want to route your audio if you are using two cards from different manufacturers in your computer. I had a Yamaha DSP Factory in mine for a little while with Powersampler and the only way I could successfully route audio into the Yamaha was via external audio ports (actually via SPDIF). I ended up selling the Yamaha and buying a Pulsar II SRB to add to the Powersampler.
The problems are likely to be less severe with the Luna II hardware (which you would get with Powersampler), as you cannot run as many devices as with Pulsar II, for example. The main areas affected by VIA issues are Reverbs and Samplers, so be sure you understand what the issues could be beforehand.
Secondly, you should check out how you might want to route your audio if you are using two cards from different manufacturers in your computer. I had a Yamaha DSP Factory in mine for a little while with Powersampler and the only way I could successfully route audio into the Yamaha was via external audio ports (actually via SPDIF). I ended up selling the Yamaha and buying a Pulsar II SRB to add to the Powersampler.
helpful advice, thanks 
i think i'll try the kontakt demo first.. there's a DX version of it, so it should integrate fine with sonar.
I've used some DX instruments (triangle) and i ended up having to adjust the latency down when recording and up again when playing back, which turns boring really quickly.. which is why i'm thinking about powersampler.. but the )(&#(#%#" local music store won't let your return audio cards or try at home before buy.
i think i'll try the kontakt demo first.. there's a DX version of it, so it should integrate fine with sonar.
I've used some DX instruments (triangle) and i ended up having to adjust the latency down when recording and up again when playing back, which turns boring really quickly.. which is why i'm thinking about powersampler.. but the )(&#(#%#" local music store won't let your return audio cards or try at home before buy.
I'm assuming from your previous post that you have a Roland digital mixer, given that you have an R-Bus card. One option you could consider is either running the SPDIF and analogue outs of the Powersampler to your mixer (or the Delta ins), or getting one of the extra I/O options for the Powersampler card.
That way you would get zero latency for your sampling (if the VIA chipset doesn't cause any significant issues) and wouldn't need to route the audio inside the computer at all. The STS5000 has 14 individual outputs (I think) which could be sent to any hardware outputs you might have. Check out the options on Creamware's site. If you could live with 8 individual outs and reduced features, you could consider a secondhand Powersampler with Luna 2496 box (8 analogue I/O), which do appear reasonably regularly on e-bay etc.
That way you would get zero latency for your sampling (if the VIA chipset doesn't cause any significant issues) and wouldn't need to route the audio inside the computer at all. The STS5000 has 14 individual outputs (I think) which could be sent to any hardware outputs you might have. Check out the options on Creamware's site. If you could live with 8 individual outs and reduced features, you could consider a secondhand Powersampler with Luna 2496 box (8 analogue I/O), which do appear reasonably regularly on e-bay etc.
Thanks w_ellis for fine answers.
As I have an Athlon 1,2 GHz which is still quite powerful and a Terratec DMX 6fire ordered and coming from Germany (hopefully soon), I decided to try to manage with softsamplers for a while. Maybe if I hate the latency sh*t of the s/w too much I might consider going for PowerSampler or Pulsar... but thanks for the info anyway.
As I have an Athlon 1,2 GHz which is still quite powerful and a Terratec DMX 6fire ordered and coming from Germany (hopefully soon), I decided to try to manage with softsamplers for a while. Maybe if I hate the latency sh*t of the s/w too much I might consider going for PowerSampler or Pulsar... but thanks for the info anyway.
w_ellis says "The problems are likely to be less severe with the Luna II hardware (which you would get with Powersampler), as you cannot run as many devices as with Pulsar II, for example. The main areas affected by VIA issues are Reverbs and Samplers, so be sure you understand what the issues could be beforehand"
Just a note to say that Luna II doesn't like VIA either - I have a mate who has had no end of problems with it. Yes ! Its only small, but still too big for that wretched chipset !
Just a note to say that Luna II doesn't like VIA either - I have a mate who has had no end of problems with it. Yes ! Its only small, but still too big for that wretched chipset !