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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2002 9:16 am
by samuel40
Hey guys i recently had my first instrument recording session i usually just use a beat machine and use a sampler or different soft synths but i had a gent come in with an electric guitar and it sounded pretty good .

however there was soooo much noise coming from his effects boxes that i couldn't the tracks we did with those boxes. without the boxes we got a descent sound.

i attempted to go direct into my compressor/preamp but the signal was too low.

so finally are there any tips on how to record with the effects but negate the sound or any other general guitar recording tips you all can offer me, thanks Guys

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2002 2:17 pm
by kiminet
I thinks you should search for the "busbooster" in this forum under "devices"

Kim

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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2002 11:42 pm
by garyb
celmo has a nice guitar amp simulator.if you are going into the analog input,there is a bad level/impeadance mismatch.a direct box into a mic pre would be better.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 6:12 am
by samuel40
Thanks for the suggestions!!

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 4:29 pm
by RedSun
Yes! When you want to record audio directly from an electric guitar(or anything that doesn't generate a line level signal), you have to take into account it's electrical properties. This is not something you can compensate for with at the software level. It's a physical limitation of electrical circuits. In this case, you would need, at the very least, a good DI box. The main function if this device is to match the electrical impedance. Some of these include a pre-amp. If you don't, you could loose a bit of the frequency range, dynamics and maybe generate some phase distortion(this all depends on the actual guitar of other device you're using). Off course, if you put a lot of distortion on that guitar, it could be just what you're looking for...

Note that a pre-amp by itself will only boost the signal level, not compensate for the different electrical properties.



RedSun .:.

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2002 6:16 am
by samuel40
great info RedSun i appreciate it. what would one use in conjuction with a pre amp to "compensate for the different electrical properties."

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2002 6:21 am
by paulrmartin
Redsun, Are you saying that plugging my guitar in my Pod(guitar pre-amp) directly into my soundcard is the wrong thing to do?
Please tell me if I'm missing something. :wink:

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2002 5:44 pm
by garyb
no, the pod expects mic level,high impeadance which is what comes off of your guitar.it outputs line level which is fine for your soundcard.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2002 5:52 pm
by paulrmartin
Whew! Thanks Gary

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2002 10:03 am
by garyb
:smile:

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2002 10:38 am
by RedSun
Yes, unless if you have one of those rare low impedance guitars. I'm not absolutely certain but, if I remember correctly, some of the old LesPaul were low impedance...

Anyway, if your equipment doesn't have a high impedance input, what you need is a DI Box. All music stores have a selection of those. Some are passive, some require phantom power, some have a pre-amp build in... Select one that match your needs and budget.

:smile:



RedSun .:.