MIDI-StepSequencer XITE+PCI

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MIDI-StepSequencer XITE+PCI

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Peter Drake wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:38 pm
http://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic. ... 77#p341857
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need a keyboard unprotected, can anybody help
for XITE stable study
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XITE Theme ONE "event to midinote"
had to change an idea to native, but would like to implement dsp.
until now unfortunately everything in the timing too unstable
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Re: MIDI-StepSequencer XITE/PCI

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spacef wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:58 am
http://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=36164&p=341863#p341864
the midi keyboard can't be edited, it is scripted and you don't have access to the engine. you can access the keys graphics to change them but that's all. It is not available anymore, it was in early scope sdks. You need to contact someone who was able to make a midi step sequencer like Wolgang Reuter or some modular genius :-)
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#simons Loop are cool running on XITE but can`t contact him/ no answer,
ok i`ve debug the gui (for me)... but how did he do it 2006?
youtube - BC Modular meets C4T Cats and Loop #ScopeZone
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LOOP - MIDI Sequencer v0.6b
https://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=28778


#ghost matthomat v2 is sleeping...
`2012 email in<>out:
... Wir werden ihre Anregung in den Pool von möglichen Erweiterungen für eine Mattomat Version 2.0 aufnehmen, Für weitere Fragen stehe ich gerne zur Verfügung, mit freundlichen Grüßen, Matthias Keul
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#wolf SQ`s only pci...
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#m-modules from sharc/wolf in XITE with smal-bug, will shot 2 midinotes (1.pitch, 2.vel)
shit, only one event at same time
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last weeks i have tested many dsp atoms ~~~
...mmhh ok, now the last days i cord M4L with monster cool SQ results :D
...but i also need a dsp solution 8)
let's rethink for a moment, then i'll keep looking back
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Re: MIDI-StepSequencer XITE/PCI

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anspieltipp des tages: k(raft)werk, Neon Lights

>changelog>
...every day, i`m working on an Xite perfection for the cv+pitch2midinote conversion, unfortunately I had to end the 7th attempt
(beta test again did not provide enough time stability for the midi edition)
but I think positively 8)
sdk is sooooo cool, even if it sometimes tears a bit. But that is from time to time in the best family. Too bad that the atoms contain very little to no information. It only takes a long time to find out what one or the other pen wants to say or even needs.
ok, weekend is weekend, but shit happens, i will find a way~~~
with or without scope kings of masterdeveloper
i`m "rocket man" :o

mmhhh... is there actually a way to open dsp atoms to check? which program is recommended for scope xx.dsp design?
"help, we need somebody, he~he~help!"

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Re: MIDI-StepSequencer XITE/PCI

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spaceF - Logiquencer freeware
spacef wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:56 pm
http://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=35182#p342324

I have just checked and it should work fine. I will check again tomorrow for exact version. Thanks for your patience.

NB : For CV are you talink about bipolar modulator ?

For info, the range of a 3 octave CV Signal (like the one you get by using Expert Sleepers ADAT to CV) is approx the range of the scope signal divided by 3 (approximately). To control the pitch of an oscillator over more than 3 octaves, then you would need to add several CV inputs and make them very precise (for ex, the 1st CV controls octave 0 to 3, and other CV controls octave 4 to 6 - then the work is to find the right method to add both signal so it stays in tune, which means that the second CV must be equal to 0 over the whole range of the first CV. This must be done "after" the Adat to CV conversion because it manages only 3 octaves "no matter what".
A total loss of time for scope though, people can buy a keystep keyboard second hand, it has a CV output and can play the full keyboard range.

For unipolar/bipolar, I confess I do not know what you are talking about :-)
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Re: MIDI-StepSequencer XITE/PCI

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CWM - SeqTools (christmas is coming!)
spacef wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:04 am
http://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=34720&start=40#p342366

I don't do sync to midi notes.... if that's what people are talking about in this thread.
it works a few minutes and goes wild after a while and is not useable for me. Worf's step sequencer reacts like this, and even Creamware's Noah's step sequencer (which can send out midi notes) can be erratic after a while. Or even the stock arpegiator (back in the days, it could crash my scope system under win XP) . All these are perfectly useable , but not for a very long time (as said, after a while, it goes wild), and they must be used "reasonably" (not process a ton of information at the same time).

That's why a device like KrOn (or K16 oir LBH or any of my sequencers) does *not* include CV to *Midi note*. KrOn is full sync and it is precise as hell and can run in sync for hours without re-triggering.

Gating is also very precise (triggering external hardware) but that's because it uses CV (or audio for an MS20 signal follower) , not midi, not software. I've been using it with analog synth and it wortks just as fine as it would with a scope synth. But there is no midi involved :-)

Converting midi Control Changes, After Touch etc into CV/sync signal works very fine too. These are all continuous, slow signals. They are perfectly manageable in scope, and addinga lag time to smooth out the midi CC works quite nicely.

It's just that I don't think that Scope is so great for midi. For example, too many midi Control Change at the same time can cause graphic lags, and can be annoying. Using a few of them is generally ok though. I beleive that's because the conversion has to go to Windows before coming back into scope, just like the graphics. so it is slow and will not be great to work "at compressor's speed and precision". There is a bottleneck. But it is enough for manual control for a few CCs and can be helpful.

I will soon release a mini device for KrOn users, that allows to convert CV/sync to Midi CC , to be sent to your VSTi parameters that can be controlled by midi. It is super fast and it *cannot* go out of sync BUT it can be less precise than sync of course.

Now, you could record KrOn output as audio in a DAW , and use this audio to trigger stuff that can be triggered that way, without the need to go back into scope. Like that, it would be 100% windows/native, and it would be as precise as native stuff allow.
Or you could use it to feed an "audio to Gate" module in Scope, and it would be very precise too (because it is not midi).

There is actually a great device that almost everyone has and that is dedicated to midi notes and can also take care of midi CCs: it is the piano roll of your DAW :-) Why attenmpting reinventing a wheel that would work less good than what we already all have ?

Sorry for the long blurb and possibility of being off topic, just wanted to make things clear about what i do and don't do.
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Re: MIDI-StepSequencer XITE/PCI

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spacef wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:04 am
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Sorry for the long blurb and possibility of being off topic, just wanted to make things clear about what i do and don't do.
roy thinnes wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:06 am
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...but I'm sure you cannot convert Sync signals to Async signals without being totally out of sync. (long live Sync :P )
hey guys, thanks for joining!!
YEP scope vs midi protocol ... hours over hours
but it’s still a lot of fun to be surprised

currently the best MIDI connection between daws on the same computer
>Scope (ASIO-Master Clock + 8x16 Midiports)
>>loopMIDI | Tobias Erichsen (more virtual midi ports :D
>>O Deus ASIO Link Pro Scope (Master Link)
>>>cubase (Slave Link+Clock Master)
>>>> M4L (Slave Link) + midiSeqPlugChain (live: first you must hide rewire-system file)
>>>>>cubase (Slave Link)
>>>>>> M4L (Slave Link) + midiSeqPlugChain
>>>>>>>cubase (Slave Link)
et cetera...
this is the best way for me currently

!! ONLY midi tranfer (without rewire-mode, and audio only between Scope and one DAW!)
for best stability/flexibility (Midi: Latenz 0ms, absolutely stable, and no notes hanging)
Funfactor >100%
guaranteed for me
:)
why NO-rewire?
YEP, major advantage > you can load all plugs in all daw`s, and take midi In/Outs!!
and midi control/mapping?
YEP, with mapping in scope><cubase<>live<>scope
routing here in se-studios over midi-porter: midex/midiexpress/usbcontroler/scope/loop e.g.

absolutely important:
for audio > NOT use more then one DAW!!

...
MIDI? YES!, i need Midi (v1)
for my best old outboard friends! digital (sound/fx+mix) AND analog (e.g. mks70 or synthex 8)
..but yes, i have also prodigy, sh101, cs15, ms20... over CV

save scope, i stay tuned!!!
cheers ron
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I think these may come in handy?

MIDI Encoder and MIDI Decoder
more has been done with less
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NEW YEAR NEW CHANCE
i've simon contacted

...LOOP bring back to life
the fantastic XITE stable MIDI sequencer from 2006...

really a shame if golden knowledge dies out!
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wundervolles thema hier über SEQ
sequencers (+ zaquencer BCR2000)
http://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36313
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