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New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by valis » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:00 am

iBASE Lists C246 Motherboards for Intel Xeon E CPUs

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3 PCI slots, supports up to 64GB ram, full complement of new ports AND enough legacy support to get by with anything you might have lying around that still works. I am seriously considering building one of these to replacing my current scope machine which is now 17 years old!

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by Marco » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:09 am

Great! Thank you for the hint!
Scope 7 user since 2017 and Scope user since 1998. :o

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by dawman » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:00 am

Been watching these guys with Q370 and C246 PCH parts.
This is a great mobo for 1U Servers too because of the DIMMs perpendicular alignment.

Give me a 4GHz Xeon E-2100 something.
Not big on getting slower 6 core variants.
But its possible that the i7s are also able to be used on this board.
In that case, get the fastest i7 quad or 6 core.

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by valis » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:23 am

Here's the listing of the E series Xeons at launch:

https://liliputing.com/2018/07/intels-n ... tions.html

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I would be curious to see if non-Xeons can be used for others, but I'm still sold on Supermicro as my board and Xeons as the CPU. My machine from 2001 still works great! So does my 2008 machine, so does my pentium II Xeon (though it's in the attic) and my Pentium III Xeons... In fact they work too damn well, the only thing I've ever replaced is a few drives and 1 PSU on any of those machines. Who uses a computer from 2001 for Scope besides me? Die already! :D

In any case this still isn't going to be one of my primary machines in here, but being able to do MORE than just scope's GUI (and a few light plugins from 12+ years ago under an old 32bit copy of bidule) will be nice. I am also hopeful to get rid of the 10,000/15,000 rpm SCSI drives once and for all in that silly ancient Xeon the Scope cards are in. They've lasted 17 years too! :lol:

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by dante » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:25 pm

Any ideas what i7 6 or 8 core CPU's would run on it ? Also what does 'embedded computing' mean in this context ?

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by valis » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:56 pm

“The C246 motherboards are set to support Xeon E, Pentium, Celeron, and Core i3 processors only, and not Core i5/i7.“

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12199/in ... on-e-entry

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Post by dante » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:26 pm

Ok thanks - I guess its Xeon for me then

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by dawman » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:07 pm

Dante.
Supermicro 246 with the E-2186G is pretty damn fierce.

https://www.supermicro.com/CDS_Image/up ... _front.jpg

You can buy a server already made from Supermicro with the CPU and parts.
Its a tiny ass 1U but looks sweet.
There's also a cheap quad Xeon E.
Think I'll get that for the rig where I use lots of hardware and only need a few virtual instruments, and Scope as the big boy mixer and FX.

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by Music Manic » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:20 pm

Have you got this running Valis? How does it perform? How much does the Mobo cost?

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by valis » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:54 am

Unfortunately this is literally product announcement, paper launch. However this is the ball I am keeping my eye on as it moves downfield.

So I will be taking notes on my parts decision list and sharing my research as I go. Have several other pots on the stove already in my work and my current Scope machine, while meager by modern standards, is still perfectly functional. I won't have anything running until winter, as I like to let PCB's go to rev2/3 on a product I am interested in before jumping in. 6 months behind the curve in modern audio/DAW terms is fine with me if I'm going to live with a machine for 10-20 years (as it seems I am with my other machines.) :)

I encourage anyone who is participating on this platform before that to post their results!

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by dante » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:55 am

dawman wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:07 pm
Dante.
Supermicro 246 with the E-2186G is pretty damn fierce.

https://www.supermicro.com/CDS_Image/up ... _front.jpg

You can buy a server already made from Supermicro with the CPU and parts.
Its a tiny ass 1U but looks sweet.
Cool but I want to run the 3 PCI cards as well as the XITE-1D. I know theres such a thing as risers, but will 2 lunas and a Pulsar fit in 1U?

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by valis » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:04 am

No, you'll need a normal case.

https://www.ibase.com.tw/english/Produc ... ting/MB995

^^ That page shows Core i3/i5/i7 as well as Xeons listed for this board...interesting! I wonder if the PCI slots are 3.3V or 5V, or both..?

Meanwhile Supermicro's boards show only 1 PCI slot for any of the boards on this platform:
http://supermicro.com/products/motherbo ... 3000/#1151

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by dante » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:43 am

valis wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:04 am
No, you'll need a normal case.

https://www.ibase.com.tw/english/Produc ... ting/MB995
I think theres a typo on that page, where theres 3 PCI slots listed at the top, but the breakdown below lists them as PCI-E (?) No mention of the voltage. Do Scope PCI cards prefer 3.3V or 5V ? But likely the board will take a hexa or octocore i7 ?

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

Post by valis » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:45 am

PCI 1.0 was 5V, which I believe our cards are. PCI 2.0 introduced 3.3V & 5V, and then PCI-X introduced 64bit support (and PCI-X is technically only 3.3V but for legacy 32bit PCI 1.0 support some slots support both voltages, my ancient Supermicro P4DC6+ and my X7DWA-n support both I believe.) And yes I agree, they clearly have a typo as there are other places where they indicate 32bit PCI support and it's in the press release and images.

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