Security & Privacy with technology in 2018 and beyond

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Re: Security & Privacy with technology in 2018

Post by Sounddesigner » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:42 pm

valis wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:12 pm
I'm sure most of you saw the latest NYTimes coverage on facebook sharing data with 3rd parties:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/tech ... ivacy.html

Here's the VERY relevant quote from the NYT article: "Facebook allowed Microsoft’s Bing search engine to see the names of virtually all Facebook users’ friends without consent, the records show, and gave Netflix and Spotify the ability to read Facebook users’ private messages."

Additional coverage:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... sly-known/

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4 ... usly-known

Plus a semi-counter-argument from Arstechnica:
https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... they-look/
Looks like AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon was tracking their cellphone users and then selling their location data to shadowy third-paty companies. The good news is that once they were caught they admitted to it (unlike some companies) and promises to stop doing this by the end of March. Hopefully they are sincere with the self-policing and others follow suit. Apple created a new slogan from their PR disaster, "what happens on your IPhone stays on your IPhone".

Every week it seems there's a new scandal with these public data companies some who almost seem intent on forcing the hand of Congress to Regulate them (wich many politicians want to do anyways) Their greed makes them seem determined to mess the liberated internet paradigm up. More Taxes and Regulations have slowly started to come from several countries and States here in the USA. Social Media companies now have both political parties here in the US mad at them and that's not a safe place to be. If Congress was only going to create very narrow legislation that's only a couple pages to address data protection for users I would not mind it but most know it will be a BILL with 1001 pages that's heavy-handed covering too many categories, super complicated with plenty of free pork for certain districts and cronies and will ultimately have tons of unintended consequences. If some better self-policing or users demanding change does not soon occur then I don'r believe this will end well. The user data exploitation is just too rampant and reckless.

Here's a link to the cellphone data selling article - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... okers.html

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Re: Security & Privacy with technology in 2018 and beyond

Post by valis » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:22 pm

Saw that, thanks for sharing. Also realize that the issue with all of these things is that the carriers are not necessarily in violation per se (without further proof), but 3rd parties may leak or use data in many ways that can wind up exposing our data to aggregators and black market players that we wouldn't be pleased to find out about.

I mention this because the articles will likely show this as well, as there are legitimate reasons for the carrier selling the data. For instance roadside assistance programs make use of this data. That being said, I'm no more a fan of this than my ISP reselling my DNS queries and injecting ads into my datastream, for there's tremendous potential for mishandling of these things always.

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Re: Security & Privacy with technology in 2018 and beyond

Post by valis » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:26 pm

More updates. First, an interesting in-depth analysis from 2015 that covers such topics as "Google is to surveillance capitalism what General Motors was to managerial capitalism":

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... id=2594754


Some thoughts from the GNU side of the 'freedom' isle that seem relevant:

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/surveill ... cracy.html


Next, Early Facebook investor Roger McNamee is promoting his book "Zucked: Waking Up to the Facebook Catastrophe", which of course monetizes the fact that this issue is in the limelight. Still, there are some relevant articles floating around about this. For instance, Time magazine has a front cover spread dedicated to their article:

http://time.com/5505441/mark-zuckerberg ... -downfall/


And arstechnica has another article which overlaps this same book's PR campaign, with a (tiny bit) of additional coverage:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... tentional/


While his book is clearly a for-profit affair, I can't say it's not worth at least perusing the linked articles regardless of what one's take on the matter is. And now Google is back in the headlines as well:

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/01/ ... al-matter/


Some day I'll speak about what happened in the most recent peak of my music career to care about autonomy and personal privacy/security. For now, I'll let you all draw your own conclusions and speak as you will about these matters. It's worth noting though that there aren't many here who are giving dissenting opinion so I suspect that we all like to think of ourselves as free thinkers capable of some degree of personal responsibility and action regardless of one's personal and political compass.

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Re: Security & Privacy with technology in 2018 and beyond

Post by garyb » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:04 pm

yup

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