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Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by Liquid EDGE » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:44 am

What (of your devices including free and black box2)
That send midi lfo cc signals and retrigger(the lfo) on midi note input?

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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by JoPo » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:31 am

Hi, liquid !

I believe there is no Spacef LFO outputing directly midi. But I may be wrong !

But you can do that easily with modular, you just need BCmodular collection.
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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by Liquid EDGE » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:48 am

Thanks Jopo.

That’s amazing!!!

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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by JoPo » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:35 am

You're welcome ! I think I'm becoming a modulation specialist between different applications. Modulating through midi is nice but through audio between DAW & Scope signal is much better ! But if you want to send modulation signals to hardware synth, I'm afraid there is only midi. I've seen on your studio that you've got an Usamo box, it could drive your midi modulation signal with nice timing !

W_ellis OSC Scope modules seem to be very promising too. But I didn't try it yet.
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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by Liquid EDGE » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:40 am

Yeah very good point on usamo. As it’s usually when I start throwing midi cc modulation movement out, when jitter and timing issues stuff can start to happen.

I’m intending to modulate (with re triggering) my doepfer dark energy synths!

Will download that file/zip tonight. Your a star! 😊

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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by yayajohn » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:37 am

There's a few other options too
http://www.planetz.com/Pulsar/files/devices/foam.jpg

and if you want a more professional bundle of midi tools including a syncable LFO midi generator:
https://www.sonic-core.net/shop/product ... 23e9da1ed7

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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by Liquid EDGE » Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:23 pm

Foam seems cool, I’ll have a hunt/search.

Yeah I did want to get that os midi commander pack! But already spent enough over Christmas. Tbh. It seems a bit pricey for midi tools at full price.

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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by spacef » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:09 am

Hi all,
There is no SpaceF device that does this directly (as far as I remember, but I could be wrong :-) )
In BlackBox II there was a CC morpher that could take any audio/midi signal and output it as 5 modified midi CC.
I currently have a project to do this in, a better way, but I haven't had the time to start yet. So alternative solutions are welcome :-)

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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by next to nothing » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:54 am

I might be misunderstanding, but any LFO etc in modular can easily output midi to your sequencer, if you have a value monitor with an assignable slider. i use Flexor for this, see http://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic. ... ur#p251832
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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by Liquid EDGE » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:46 am

spacef wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:09 am
Hi all,
There is no SpaceF device that does this directly (as far as I remember, but I could be wrong :-) )
In BlackBox II there was a CC morpher that could take any audio/midi signal and output it as 5 modified midi CC.
I currently have a project to do this in, a better way, but I haven't had the time to start yet. So alternative solutions are welcome :-)
So I could use the modulators that came with mod mix v2 send those signals to the morpher and basically have midi cc modulation. Cool will check it out.

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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by Liquid EDGE » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:55 am

next to nothing wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:54 am
I might be misunderstanding, but any LFO etc in modular can easily output midi to your sequencer, if you have a value monitor with an assignable slider. i use Flexor for this, see http://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic. ... ur#p251832
Ah very cool. Yeah that’s basically the sort of thing I’m looking for but with re trigger lfo on note input.

How very cool modular is. Recently got hold of flexor 3 as well!! 😊

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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by JoPo » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:36 am

I missed the Flexor trick ! It looks very fun with the elastic module ! :wink:

If you send midi notes to the little patch I showed you, the lfo wil be retriggered on each via its gate input and the retrigger button on.

Before the sync tot async module, the signal is sync format, allowing you to mix it with other sync signals with a mixer. Those other sync signals could come from envelope, lfo, modular audio input, flexor's lfos etc. And even async signals which allow you to use logical / math modules from BC & CW modular, just convert them into sync to mix them with sync. Or any other sync signal source. So, you can shape your modulation signal, before to convert it in midi cc, the way you wish.

I noticed that if you want an accurate signals, you should use sync modules as much as possible.
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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by Spielraum » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:53 am

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Re: Midi cc modulators/lfo

Post by dawman » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:27 am

Yes Scope is awesome.
Scope 7 and OS MIDI Commander are on my short list.

at0m made a great LFO to MIIDI Patch I added retriggering to.
I use it to retrigger TC Fireworx Phaser Sweeps and SpaceF Mixer Channel Filters & Pans.

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