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Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:06 am
by Nebukadneser
Are John Bowen's devices compatible with Win 7/64? I just re-installed the bundle that I purchased a few years ago, and most devices crash when I change presents and result in BSOD.
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:15 am
by petal
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:18 am
by Marco
Bowen synthesizer work on 64 bit 100%! On my 64bit and win7, they work great.
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:28 am
by Nebukadneser
I suspected that the wav and sample oscillators caused the trouble I have experienced. Then I may be wrong. I have probably to few dsps (13) for those big synth designs. Changing presets on a 3 voice instance of Rotor brings the system to its knees.
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:46 am
by Nebukadneser
Nah, it's definately a no-go. I just loaded a 3 voice instance of Dark Star with plenty of DSP headroom, and it crashed w/BSOD. No chance it will work.
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:05 pm
by garyb
what won't work is the wave osc.
as long as no samples are loaded, it shouldn't crash.
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:47 pm
by Marco
Your system is the problem not Bowen synthesizer
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:48 pm
by garyb
it's the sample osc on the synth. it was made long before 64bit.

Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:50 pm
by garyb
...or his system...it depends on the point of view.
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:15 am
by Marco

right
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:54 am
by Nebukadneser
Marco wrote:Bowen synthesizer work on 64 bit 100%! On my 64bit and win7, they work great.
So, what is the secret trick to make the plugins work under W7/64?
Neb
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:45 am
by Nebukadneser
Thanks, I am aware of this. I have dropped the files under "App/Sys" (I believe, not at my DAW now). All the files are .SYS so I thought the SYS foulder is where they belong. There is no instruction on S|C on how to do this properly.
Neb
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:14 am
by garyb
just get rid of the thing1 and thing2 samples.
don't load anything into the sample oscs. the synths will work.
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:52 am
by dante
Nebukadneser wrote:Marco wrote:Bowen synthesizer work on 64 bit 100%! On my 64bit and win7, they work great.
So, what is the secret trick to make the plugins work under W7/64?
Neb
A few suggestions here about Qwave and Solaris
http://www.hitfoundry.com/issue_26/sol_mast.htm - mainly for XITE but some tips probably apply to PCI as well. Some of it is standard stuff such as preset surfing at Poly 1, stripping out stuff from presets that doesnt affect the sound much but reduces DSP load etc etc
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:06 am
by Nebukadneser
garyb wrote:just get rid of the thing1 and thing2 samples.
don't load anything into the sample oscs. the synths will work.
What would be the smart thing to do here? Downgrade to W7/32 to be able to run STS and Bowen?
I am never going to go beyond the 4GB ram that I have installed in my current system, which is one of the benefits og going 64bit, so I assume that I can stay 32 bit and run most audio apps. Or, are 64 bit a requirement for music apps these days?
Neb
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:13 am
by yayajohn
Nebukadneser wrote:
What would be the smart thing to do here? Downgrade to W7/32 to be able to run STS and Bowen?
I am never going to go beyond the 4GB ram that I have installed in my current system, which is one of the benefits og going 64bit, so I assume that I can stay 32 bit and run most audio apps. Or, are 64 bit a requirement for music apps these days?
Neb
That's probably not a bad idea esp if you don't use lots of hungry apps. I have PCI cards on a separate computer Win10 32bit and the Zarg bundle works pretty good. (and STS)
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:41 am
by Bud Weiser
garyb wrote:just get rid of the thing1 and thing2 samples.
don't load anything into the sample oscs. the synths will work.
I´m on 32Bit ...
On my machines, one of those samples is missing (no idea which exactly atm ...)
Where do I find both (or all) neccessary to open ZARG synths presets and not running into the app asking for a sample not existing on my machine´s HDDs ?
I have the original zip files of the ZARG bundle deal even here on my office machine as a backup,- but surprisingly there are no samples included at all.
thx
Bud
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:59 am
by yayajohn
Try these Bud.
- Zarg.zip
- (1.55 MiB) Downloaded 156 times
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:10 am
by petal
Nebukadneser wrote:garyb wrote:just get rid of the thing1 and thing2 samples.
don't load anything into the sample oscs. the synths will work.
What would be the smart thing to do here? Downgrade to W7/32 to be able to run STS and Bowen?
I am never going to go beyond the 4GB ram that I have installed in my current system, which is one of the benefits og going 64bit, so I assume that I can stay 32 bit and run most audio apps. Or, are 64 bit a requirement for music apps these days?
Neb
Well, I've been running 32bit windows 7 for years for this exact reason (and to be able to use XTC-mode which works great with Live and a Push

) and I've been fine, but within the last year both Cubase and Live have gone 64-bit exclusively, meaning, no more updates/upgrades on my old trusted 32-bit installation. So that might be worth having in mind before you make the decission. Or you can run two partions on your machine like me and have windows installed in both 32 and 64 bit.
I truely hope (but seriously doubt) that Scope 7 will leave me no reasons to stay in 32-bit land.
Re: Bowen's synths on Win 7 64bit
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:57 pm
by Bud Weiser
yayajohn wrote:Try these Bud.
downloaded ...
Thank you very much Sir !
Bud