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Some bands should not be allowed.

Lol!

I was hoping this was not a joke

I like some of their stuff.

-Tom

LoL.......

Happy voting today

I already have visions of the Trump Oval Office.

Trump with his feet on the desk leaning back in his chair as several people in line wait to kiss his ring.
Putin enters the room and hands Trump a check for the Wall on the Turkish border, apologises for doubting Trumps awesomeness.

Camera pans over to his beautiful daughter breastfeeding her new baby.
In the background Trump staffers scurry around nervous from the rapid fire succession or orders barked.
Then some victim advocate shows Trump the cost benefit analysis of some social program and Trump yells out screw those losers.
Ping ponging cameras then freeze as Trumps georgeous Ukranian sex slave sitting on the desk does a Sharon Stone Legs crossing move......

Much more exciting than a day with Obama on a bike wearing some gay safety helmut....
Doesnt he know Putin rides horseback with a shotgun naked....?
Nobody fears a man struggling to ride a bicycle and threaten opponents with scary military jargon like "measured" response.

I want to see Trumps wife rising from under the desk with messy hair while he gives a speech from the Oval Office with a big smile instead of the usual jacked off face.

If we have to live in a world of lies at least entertain us

Trump is a trip
He could be all alone, stranded on a deserted island.
And still be ordering Crabs around and calling Coconuts losers.

It will be around 6 o'clock in the morning local time when the first results will show up.
I hope I'll make it that late as I'm curious.

Trump and Sanders are fishing in the same water of the angry disappointed Americans who feel the promises of 'the American Dream' are out of their reach.
The first generation which does worse than the former one on the economical ladder.
That's how I got it from docs on TV.

Trump against Sanders would give you the best show of all times I guess

WP:
Even if Clinton prevails, the close contest in Iowa confirms that Sanders’s anti-establishment message has real muscle and appeal. While a narrow victory for the former secretary of state would make good on nearly a year of dutiful campaigning and heavy investment in Iowa, it would also leave residual doubts about her weaknesses among Democratic voters.

Dont pay attention to media.
They stand to make the most money so dramatizing and making these events appear as if voters have a voice is thier man concern
The Foundation accepts billions which isnt for mosquito nets for starving Africans.
Although like the Puppy and Kitten commercial, 10% of the cash might reach the poor bastards.
100,000 a week hotel rooms are standard operating procedure.
Saving the little people and reversing global warming are strenuous efforts requirring huge salaries and benefits.

Yet there's a huge difference between having Sanders or Trump/Cruz as potus.

Sanders so close to Billary means he has a good chance, which is pleasantly surprising to my taste.

there's a huge difference in your mind anyway. the only difference is how comfortably the knife gets stuck in. most Americans despise all of these candidates. they are selected for us, not elected by us.

With respect, but I prefer not to discuss politics with the moderator (and who on top of it is representant of S/C), if you don't mind

kiss off.
what discussion? it's a fact that most Americans find all of the choices given to them as repulsive. seen the voter turnout figures? there's nothing to discuss.

We have sadly only a two party government system and both parties Know there is no other choices so they can do what they want, wich often are deeds that lead to tyranny. I think only a bit over 60 million voters turned out for the last election but around 100 million did not vote (wich shows people are disillusioned about the political system). More voters do show up when some believe that a certain unique candidit can bring about change but generally people have no doubt lost faith in the system and only see it getting worser out here no matter who's elected ( 19 trillion $ National debt, high budget deficit, shrinking military force, more and more expensive and long wars, increasing student loan debt and more and more prohibitive college tuition, shrinking middle class, increasing drug addictions amongs our people, higher crime despite the false claims of lower crime, more and more people needing food stamps, despite the blood- sweat and tears our ancestors gave to make the country better for us who're their children our country is being given away to illegal immigrants, illegal power grabs by all three branches of Government since you have the Supreme court now legislating and forcing unjust laws on the land while the president uniladerally governs with executive-orders and wages war without congress authorization, abuse of power from all departments of Authority from President down to police, asset forfeiture, a constant widdling away at civil rights with things like the Patriot Act, etc etc etc etc - everything is going wrong but we're told all is fine and thus many naïve and denialists people just keep on fantasizing and dreaming while the land is ablaze). Donald Trump and Sanders both reveal much of the dissatisfaction the American people have with Washington but also the people are realizing there is little that can be done about the Auction-based kleptocracy/plutocracy/aristocracy (everything but democracy) political system we have where our politicians are bought out.

We are dominated by two political parties that rig the system and are oppressors who can't be held accountable and are only self-serving. It is almost impossible for a third option to run for president due to the prohibitive costs. Its too tuff to get on the ballads of all the States where you may need 500,000 signatures (good luck with getting that many signatures without expensive advertisement) and you won't be allowed in the General Election debates if you're not in one of the two parties, so too few of people will even know about you as a third option. Unless you're a billionaire good luck!

Despite my doom-and-gloom post I do also believe America is a special country and that we'll figure something out at some point to Bring about some sort of improvement, but currently we are no doubt on the path to self-destruction if we don't recognize this and change. There was a ending of some sort for all great nations before us wich did not change in time.

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garyb wrote:kiss off.
what discussion? it's a fact that most Americans find all of the choices given to them as repulsive. seen the voter turnout figures? there's nothing to discuss.

Like I Saïd, I prefer not to discussie political thoughts and views like that with the moderator of this forum.
Imagine the moderator of Native Intruments or UAD would show input like that.

I'm not in the opportunity to argument in detail at the moment, but for now it's just what I choose for

there. is. nothing. to. argue. about. what. i. said.

it has nothing to do with theories or viewpoints.

also, i don't care about your made-up moderator "laws". i am not party to them.

i'm also ok, if you have nothing further to say on the subject to me.

Primaries are looked at by the corporate owned media as political events where the peasants take time off work, lose money to serve their representative for free, but really get paid.

Delegates are purchased.
We know this. The politicians know that we know. But we make-believe that we don't know and the politicians make-believe that they believe that we don't know, but know that we know. Everybody knows.