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When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:30 am
by tlaskows
I had a hard time to get my chip to run at 4.4 (it used to be able to). It had something to do with the Intel XMP memory profile or something selecting the wrong timing maybe? Anyway it's a 1600 RAM but OCCT linpack was failing after about 20 minutes at any clock speed! Now I have the RAM speed set to 1333 and the chip to 4.4GHz at Vcore 1.35 I think and it's been OCCTing for 8 hours straight with no problems. I'm just trying to get a little bit more juice for the stupid Diva, it's eating up my cores :o

Oh yeah, it's an older 4770k chip and I do use a water cooler (Corsair H110). The max temperature over 8 hours was around 82 degrees with the cooling fans set at 50%.

Have fun guys!

-Tom

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:45 pm
by Nestor
It's not clear to me what happened to your setup, but thanks for the warning. I will go slowly with OC, just a couple hundreds or so... don't like to stress too much the system.

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:54 pm
by tlaskows
Well, basically it was failing memory tests because the timing wasn't correct for some reason. So I forced the memory to run at a slower speed. Now stress testing at 4.7GHz at 1.35Vcore. Do you have an unlocked chip? The locked ones are nearly impossible to overclock, well you can but not by a lot...

Oh yeah, make sure you run the OCCT linkpack 64 bit test infinite for at least 12 hours. Recommended 24 hours. If it fails this test, it is not stable!

Cheers,

-Tom

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:24 am
by tlaskows
Work in progress. 20 hours into a 64 bit linkpack test with 90% memory usage. Has not BSODed yet...

-Tom

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:05 am
by Nestor
Very cool :) :) Just in case, don't push it too much brother.

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:08 am
by tlaskows
Yep, I should listen to you. It was stable for over a day while stress testing, then I woke up to the BSOD! So I stepped it down a notch :lol:. I guess to really test it, you have to run it for a few days.

Cheers!

-Tom

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:31 pm
by Nestor
I don’t know how true this might be, but I have been told to let my rig running with a heavy loop full of plugins and instruments, it has to be a short loop of 1 or 2 bars the whole night, and if you find your rig is still going well and it sounds in time, perfectly in sync, it is supposed to be a very good sign of stability. I remember that many of us used to do it, here in the Z, many, many years ago, when all this started around 1998 or 99.

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:34 pm
by tlaskows
Hmm, but that doesn't stress your see pee you 100%

but probably stable enough for music. I want it 100% stable :lol:

-Tom

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:20 pm
by tlaskows
Oh, sorry. I am not testing audio/MIDI stability. I have to have a stable computer first :D

-Tom

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:27 pm
by garyb
clock it stock....

:lol:

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:38 pm
by tlaskows
Stock? you mean 3.5GHz? hmm. But the plugins are eating up a lot of CPU! I have this nice water cooler for a reason. I always overclock, my 980x 3.3 was running at 4.14 on 6 cores, but that was like 5 years ago? I will let it run the 64 bit linkpack test (it really heats up the CPU, probably will throttle at stock with the stock cooler, no joke) for a couple days. It's only at 4.6 now 16 hours in, max temp 83 degrees, no, not F.

-Tom

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:43 pm
by Nestor
tlaskows wrote:Hmm, but that doesn't stress your see pee you 100%

but probably stable enough for music. I want it 100% stable :lol:

-Tom
No way, you didn't see mee pee! :lol:

Well..., in those days it probably did, but we used to do it a lot I remember. Otherwise, it is true, if you want a stable system you have to chose between OC or stability, speed vs stability. In most cases, we all want stability as the most precious thing.

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:48 pm
by tlaskows
Well, I do NOT have to overclock. But I take breaks and go check on the PC in the basement. I spend the whole day on my POS MacBook that keeps on breaking... grrrr! It's only 3 years old. Already had to replace the screen (was ghosting like crazy) and the Apple replaced the logic board (800$ job) for free after I complained to them. I don't wanna go into the details about my love for Apple products.

-Tom

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:50 pm
by tlaskows
Oh, no no. I did not see you pee ahhahha :lol:

I'm just doing this in my spare time, because I have no time for music right now. Just joined a startup and there's a lot of code to be written in a short period of time. What can you do?

-Tom

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:59 pm
by tlaskows
Oh yeah, I cannot say anything bad about Apple, because there's an Apple employee on planet z. Yeah, he PMed me at home. I told him about all the iDevices I spent money on and how they were the best. He never replied. Oh yeah, almost forgot. I said something bad about Apple on their support forums and it got taken down in less than 5 seconds. 2 million views on that thread with ppl with the same issue and they are watching but not fixing the "glitch".

At least Gary is always here to give a helping hand and quickly.

I try to stick to honest companies.

-Tom

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:16 pm
by garyb
well, if you say something bad, that's one thing. i hate it, but...
if it's personal, then i might be different.

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:52 pm
by Nestor
Companies nowadays tend to copy bad habits from other companies, bad habits that report more benefits, of course, and this means more Money, like it is happening in advertising with too many noises and lights for a simple product that is mediocre. Remember this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eREiQhBDIk

I remember right now several interesting statements from Steve Jobs that touched my heart immediately long ago, as Apple truly wanted to please people doing a good job, and then… earn a living because of that. They did so for such a long time, it’s a shame they are becoming just like Microsoft has always been.

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:10 pm
by garyb
it was M$'s own Bill Gates that saved Apple from dissolution.
think on that.

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:29 pm
by Nestor
mmmm, wow, interesting..., but why? There must be a reason which is not "helping them" I guess...

Re: When overclocking unlocked chips, beware!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:33 pm
by garyb
people like choices.

all roads lead to Rome.