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Hi,

I am about to acquire a Creamware Scope Project package, of which I believe has 6xDSP units.

Also, the following link:

http://bla.cz/_new/_music/CREAMWARE/SFP ... roject.htm

talks about "in hardware" support for MIDI and ASIO which seems interesting and I also believe it has 2x ADAT i/o of which I am hoping is SMUX compliant for the sound device I have which can be switched from regular ADAT to SMUX.

Thank you

yes it does work in smux mode for 96khz

Thanks for that answer!

Nice to know S|C were thinking ahead I think I'll be using the SPDIF out to my TC Electronic BMC-2 for the foreseeable future with my yet to arrive Creamware/Scope card, since MIDI is my main gig and it's all mixed into stereo.

It took quite a while to know the difference between the various versions i.e., 3DSP, 4DSP (bad) and 6DSP systems, not to mention the plethora of I/O "choices" available.

I use Cubase and am keen to know just how the Scope system picks up the outputs from various audio apps such as my DAW or multiple DAW programs since I'd not mind running at least 2 at once (one for programming and another for MIDI from edrums) so is this all possible, eg. using cubase and something like VSTHost?

you can't run Cubase and VST Host on the same card/driver on one machine - Asio doesn't allow it
(I guess you mention VSTHost for it's better routing capabilities, it's quite smart in that sense)

on my current Scope system I have SAW-Studio as editing only app running with WDM drivers
VSTHost for FX processing is directly routed to the Scope mixer via Asio
Asio latency is set to 6ms at 48k and Scope channels are compensated with a simple delay set to 13.375 ms

Tracking is done in Scope via VDAT controlled by an Alesis BRC
I do all stuff realtime in Scope and what's captured on the virtual tapes is later cut by SAWStudio

if you want to do that in Cubase you might condsider a 2nd hand RME Hammerfall or so for VSTHost
and route into Scope via Adat physically (of course an external system would be just the same)

cheers, Tom

astroman wrote: if you want to do that in Cubase you might condsider a 2nd hand RME Hammerfall or so for VSTHost
and route into Scope via Adat physically (of course an external system would be just the same)

And if you're interested, I have one to sell

astroman wrote:you can't run Cubase and VST Host on the same card/driver on one machine - Asio doesn't allow it
(I guess you mention VSTHost for it's better routing capabilities, it's quite smart in that sense)

on my current Scope system I have SAW-Studio as editing only app running with WDM drivers
VSTHost for FX processing is directly routed to the Scope mixer via Asio
Asio latency is set to 6ms at 48k and Scope channels are compensated with a simple delay set to 13.375 ms

Tracking is done in Scope via VDAT controlled by an Alesis BRC
I do all stuff realtime in Scope and what's captured on the virtual tapes is later cut by SAWStudio

if you want to do that in Cubase you might condsider a 2nd hand RME Hammerfall or so for VSTHost
and route into Scope via Adat physically (of course an external system would be just the same)

cheers, Tom

Hi Tom,

Thanks for that information.

I have a number of systems but one I will probably use more than the other audio only systems is Scope due to the synths (and maybe samplers, I use kontakt with an old Terratec library).

What I intend is to set up scope using the older software first, even if it means installing an older OS as I want to buy 5.1 so as to be compatible with what will inevitably come with v6 and to have compatibility with win7 for the future.

I've got a Saffire 26 i/o which I will connect via ADAT and use in SMUX mode, which will give me 8 analog i/os and a stereo digital out, as well as stereo analog I believe.

The 8 analog via SMUX will be used rarely for multitrack recording, but the stereo SPDIF will be used often with a TC Electronic BMC-2 as my main setup as I program MIDI in Cubase. As for the stereo analog, that will be for system sounds.

Currently I have a Roland UA-1G, which surprisingly allows WDM and ASIO signals to be mixed in a glitch free manner but under previous OS such as Vista, it was troublesome.

I will want to work in Scope environment, if it is possible to use the Terratec and Kontakt factory libraries, as those sounds are the most authentic I've found for programming songs otherwise I will stick with Cubase and use the ASIO driver.

Cheers