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Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:41 pm
by kensuguro
I wanted to make an FM patch (for any fm synth) where the slap comes in only at high velocity, and the rest of the time the bass acts like a synth bass, and then sort of like a darker sound a low velocity. Basically a very velocity sensitive patch that I can use as an all rounder. I made it with live's operator synth.. I think it's fairly portable since the structure is super simple.

It's nice to have a bass that can support and also build up, and have enough bite to take center stage.

Tune to test drive the bass patch, kind of along the lines of the Intermetro series. I like the Intermetro series.. that style has a pretty wide strike zone, and I think the overall sound comes as a result of the wide mix of styles. It also features the base a lot, giving it melodic parts.

The synth pop part in the middle.. well, I had to give the 8 beat slap line a try. :-)

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:04 pm
by Nestor
The bass sound you have created sounds great by itself, but I don’t really like it for this song. I want a real bass there :lol:

Now, the song is BEAUTIFUL Ken, I really enjoyed it! It gets me into this magnificent mood when I close my eyes and feel a strong plunge into emotional concentration.

Well, what I would like to hear, as a bass player, again, is a real bass; I would particularly like a Spector kind of timbre behind the lines, that would match very well with the song :wink:

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:07 pm
by kensuguro
lol. Well, you're about as real as a bass can get in my book, and I think this tune is an awesome stylistic match for your play style.

Here's the tracks without the bass, and any bass unison parts and free of all master channel effects. The second chorus is completely blank for you to cook as you please.

BTW, one thing.. if there's anything, I hope you see that I'm particularly picky about my bass groove, and though it's definitely not like a real live bass, I hope a get your mark of approval for "above average" for a synth player in terms of groove / articulation and phrasing.

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:52 pm
by dawman
Really nice style of compostition and sounds Ken.
Naturally I like the syncopation and the clavinet-ish, and Synth stabs near the end are tight.

Ankyu......

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:48 pm
by Nestor
Thank you Ken! :wink: I'll be happy to play onto it, I like your music and is fun to play. thank you also for the freedom that you allow me with your music, as you just say, hey, play onto it :D without restrictions.

I don't know when I will have the time, but I will one day do this one.

Now, please, I would like to bother you asking to pass me a wav file with high resolution if it is possible, I enjoy more when there is good fidelity.

Cheers :)

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:14 am
by kensuguro
ah, yes, will upload when I get a chance.

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:00 pm
by kensuguro
fully arranged form. Some minor tweaks to the bass sounds and overall texture. Looking forward to Nestor's bass!

The middle trance - samba like sequence sort of stands out of the rest of the arrangement... but well, free creativity and thought. :-) I tried to keep the percussion sounding "like samba" without being full on samba. Just the tip. lol.

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:08 am
by Nestor
Very nice Ken! :D Please, don't forget to give me a high quality archive for this one. I wish I had the time, I would start it right now... but... work is calling me

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:00 pm
by kensuguro
ya, I'll upload the wav for the full version.

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:37 am
by Nestor
thanks :wink:

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:40 pm
by kensuguro
alright let's do this.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/kensuguro.com. ... ssfull.wav

I took off the master comp and limiter so it's easier to mix in your tracks. Unleash the music of Nestor!

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:12 pm
by Nestor
Thank you Ken, I'm downloading it right now. As I said to you before with the other song, I don't know when I will do it, but I will..., and it will be a joy for sure. Cheers again :wink:

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:18 pm
by kensuguro
no problem at all. It's always an honor to collaborate with you. It'd also be cool if you could send me the bass track as solo, so I can read the pulse off of your inspirations and change the composition accordingly. I know I can read from your material quite accurately, and you can probably read mine, so it'd be great to have a couple of back and forth. It'd be a great learning experience for me.

I truly enjoy reading a composer's thought process, mind state, emotional state from the resulting composition. It's quite rare that such things are even embedded into the composition, but you do it every time in a very frank and sincere way. It's a bit of a musical challenge for me to pick up on that, and match the arrangement to suite. So I'm looking forward to that. Don't mind fighting the current comping, I'll match your playing afterwards. Change the base groove, dynamics, etc. Just use the current arrangement as a chord progression guideline. I also don't mind if you changed the structure.

In the future, we should also do a purely emotional tune like your collapse of Europe. I really liked the 'emotions first' concept of the series. I feel a collaboration of that scale and raw-ness can bring something of great musical importance.

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:34 pm
by Nestor
Ken you are a tempting devil to me! :lol:

I would really love to build a group with you, man I wish I had the time to do it. I think we would enjoy like kids playing and composing together! :D I don’t care if you can play better or worse that this guy or the other guy, I don’t care as much about this as I care about the understanding and spirit you show in your words and in your "music", this is what most inspires me from other musicians, exactly that, the inner worlds of music, well beyond the technical side of it, which is also beautiful but not quite attractive to me as the "meaning" or "language" of music. Well, in fact, look at my motto in the forum: "Music, the most powerful language in the world, indeed!" Music is Art! That’s the answer or secret behind it.

Unfortunately from one side, and very fortunately for the other, I am somone full of tasks, huge responsibilities, works and challenges to solve in my life, so a band it’s something I cannot start. I know you are talking about this particular song and this surprising approach, that I find very interesting indeed, I mean, doing first the song, then recording it and then doing it again on top of the second performance, that’s truly interesting, and not about building a band, but this is something I have through several times because of these feelings we share.

Life, anyway, has many surprises, and who knows, perhaps we can finally do something together regardless one day in the future, I can't tell.

For the time been, you bet I will do this song as you are asking me to do it! :wink:

Re: Intermetro series - slap bass patch test song

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:47 pm
by kensuguro
no worries. I'm sure collaborations will happen spontaneously as they should, like this tune. For me, it's comforting to know musicians that I can truly connect with.