DIY PCI Breakout Cables Project with Pinout

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DIY PCI Breakout Cables Project with Pinout

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I have two breakout cables behind my computer and I only use a few of the in’s and out’s so I decided to make my own custom ones. I want less clutter behind my PC for better airflow and like the idea of using my own cable soldered directly to the pins. This information may be useful to others who have the opposite setup of mine with a need for more flexibility with their inputs because they are using all of them. They could make breakout cables that are directly soldered to a patchbay. I established the pinout of the balanced outputs and AES/EBU breakout cable (Scope Professional) and the unbalanced and S/PDIF breakout cable (Scope Project). So far I’ve determined the breakout cable uses a D-Sub 3 Row 26P male connector. I ordered one online. I’ll post a picture once I get it (if it works). Here’s the pinout.
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good job.

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I finished the cable over the weekend. It actually worked great. If I ever need another one, I’d try and source a different housing for the cable. It was a REALLY tight fit. This was a fairly inexpensive project. l had all of the cables and most of the connectors, left over from projects over the years. I used an old Apogee cable cut in half for my S/PDIF in and out. The other cables are audiophile silver conductor cable. If you are going to do this be sure to buy a few extra D-Sub connectors. It took me 3 connectors to get to the final breakout cable. The pins easily shift around when hot so you need to be very careful. You should be highly skilled with a soldering iron. This would not make a good first soldering project!

Here are the D-Sub connectors. I bought them from an eBay seller in Taiwan.
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You need to buy the housing separately.
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Here are the cables. I repurposed this really high end Apogee S/PDIF cable by cutting it in half (now I have two cables!)
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I soldered the connectors to these wires before soldering them all to the D-Sub. I'm not sure I'd do it that way again.
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There is the final cable (upper right). Simple and uncluttered. Just what I wanted!
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:)

hehe, fun huh?
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Looks great! A clean cable run always makes me happy! great job :)
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garyb wrote:good job.

dante!?
Yep already on it.
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Hi,
I'm so glad you posted this cause I'm going to need to make my own cable.
I just got another 15dsp card off eBay to add to my set up for a steel but it came without a breakout cable.

Problem is that I don't know if the card needs a breakout cable with the xlr's or rca's.

How can I find out if the card is a project or a plus card?

It has the 4 adat slots of course so it's not a zlink one.

May it doesn't matter what breakout cable I make?

Please help me out
Thanks
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yes, it matters.

it'll be hard to tell without something to compare to. there is an extra chip in the i/o card for plus i/o.
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Ah, so thats who outbidded me. :(
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shit happens... :D
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YiannisK wrote:How can I find out if the card is a project or a plus card?
If this is an additional Scope card, the best way to determine which card you just bought is to take your existing breakout cable from the card you already have and attach it to your new card once the new card is inside your PC and connected to your existing card with a STDM cable. Connect a device using the digital in or out of your Scope breakout cable and see if you pass any audio. AES/EBU and SPDIF are completely different, so if you are getting audio with the SPDIF then you know which one it is. If not then hopefully it is AES/EBU (and not a dead card).
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actually, AES/EBU and SP/DIF are IDENTICAL signal-wise. the first is balanced and the second is unbalanced and the balanced level is hotter, just like the audio.
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Thanks all for the replies!!

@ YISH313z Sorry I out bid you but glad I won the card. :)

As for the breakout cable , I had a project I/o with breakout cable lying around that I forgot about and put that on the card and all is working great!!

I will attempt to make a breakout cable to go with the extra I/o project I have.

I love the fact that a 10+ year old card does what it does today and is still ahead of it's time compared to other cards.
Creamware S|C Will never die.!

To all who are fed up with these cards not working for them in new computers with octa cores and 8 terabytes of ram just sell them and go buy a sound blaster, that should work.:) lol
I'm sure someone will get good use out of them.

Thanks all.
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Hello, can anyone confirm if Scope Project (unbalanced) pinout is valid for old Pulsar 1 cards?
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yes, it is, if the Pulsar has unbalanced i/o.
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Happy to know, thank you!
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Did anyone tried to give some space behind the computer case with an extension cord (~1Meter) for the breakout cables ? :D
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you can do that with any cable.
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@seyit_26 - pics are all mirrored in article here FYI http://www.hitfoundry.com/issue_15/dsub_mst.htm
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