PlanetZ forums - scopeusers.com

For ScopeRise, I'd like to list peoples favourite top one or two factory presets for each of the stock synths, (optionally with mp3 or soundcloud clip) and comments (similar to what Ben setup for the Modular library but on a much smaller scale of course).

Think this : You are manning a scope demo workstation (in a hi-tech music shop for example) with up to a dozen stock scope synths loaded on an XITE, to demo what sounds come out-of-the-box to impress keyboard players.

Thier attention span may be limited so you have about 5 mins to show the top two preset sounds or so from half a dozen or so of the stock 5.1 synth (no extra FX, only those inside the synth itself).

What a nice scenario...

by the way, what is the deadline ?

No real deadline. Whichever ScopeRise edition (July 15 or Sept 15) features it will just be a blurb about an existing resource but if theres contributions before (or after) these dates I'll still be updating it as we go and make the link available to contributors.

The idea would be a resource for anyone selling XITE to a keyboard player as a live or studio unit. I already have an XITE project setup with about 8 of the synths with reasonable polyphony, but even without the hardware a salesman could go to the web page with a pic of each synth and top fave 2 or 3 factory sounds for each.

OK I understand the target better then ...

I should have some time to setup something for you soon.

I already know my favourite stocksynth:
- Minimax
- Pro12
- Vectron
- LightWave
- UKnow 007
- B2003

But I still have to figure out which factory preset is my favourite for each synth ...

PS: sent you a PM

Some great examples there - Heres the sort of look and feel I had in mind, just to get the ball rolling...

Are Minimax and Pro12 stock? Maybe you should list the synths you're considering as I'm a bit confused these days as to what is stock.

Stock to me is:

EZ Synth
Inferno
BlueSynth
SB404
miniscope
miniscope MkII
Poison
UKnow007
LightWave
Vectron Player
Prisma

Additional synths (to me) are:
B-2003
Minimax
Pro12
proTone
Vectron
Prodyssey

Synths (and lots more) have been added to V5 software.

"Instruments: Synthesizer and Sampler, Sampleplayer, Modularpatches, Arpegiator Minimax, Profit 5, B2003, Modular 2, Modular III, Vectron, Lightwave, Prisma, SB404, Poison, EDS 16i, EDS 8i, BlueSynth, EZSynth, miniscope, U KNOW 007, Vectron Player, Inferno, Arpeg01 STS-2000P, STS-3000, STS-4000, STS-5000"

I see Proddesy isn't on the list but i THINK it is included as well.

next to nothing wrote: I see Proddesy isn't on the list but i THINK it is included as well.

Nope. at least not when you come from a 3 or 4 DSP card as well is the six string and Pro 12 or ProTone, the Minimax is in.


As for the favourite stock presets I must say, when it is there, I like a -init- preset most. A synth shouldn't be a preset artificer but for sure it's good for a first impression.
So I like the idea behind it.

Maybe you want to look in the Z presets we made here years ago for the Prisma, there are nice presets in it.

http://www.planetz.com/Pulsar/files/presets/Prisma.zip

ChrisWerner: Thanks for that link re Prisma, I will investigate. I was thinking mainly factory presets but worth checking out anyway.

In fact, maybe I will add a seperate page for User patches.

Mr Arkadin / Next To Nothing : Yeah Im a bit puzzled myself about Prodyssey, may have to clarify w/ S|C - maybe thats an addition to 5.1 or new XITE's ?

The others, like B2003 and Profit 5, I think I got as included w/ Synth and Sampler pack w/ 5.0 upgrade on PCI, due to having enough DSP w/ 3 cards to qualify.

In fact, I could make a page for 'Optional' synths as well as 'User Patches' pages whilst still keeping the bog standard 'lowest common denominator' synths ( Mr Arkadin's top 11 ) and factory patches on thier own pages.

Way to go....I think...

Would still like to know where Prodyssey fits in .....but I'm probably right in guessing it wont come with a 3DSP card bought today for example.

Whereas someone with a 14DSP Scope Pro on Scope 4.0 upgrading to Scope 5.1 would no doubt inherit B2003 and Profit 5 etc.

I think we should consider the scope v5.1 stock list, it can be found there:

http://sonic-core.net/joomla.soniccore/ ... 21&lang=us

New in SCOPE v5.1

Instruments: Synthesizer and Sampler, Sampleplayer, Modularpatches, Arpegiator.
- Minimax
- Profit 5
- B2003
- Modular 2
- Modular III
- Vectron
- Lightwave
- Prisma
- SB404
- Poison
- EDS 16i
- EDS 8i
- BlueSynth
- EZSynth
- miniscope
- U KNOW 007
- Vectron Player
- Inferno
- Arpeg01
- STS-2000P
- STS-3000
- STS-4000
- STS-5000

so profit 5/pro12, b2003, vectron are there.
The synth'n'sampler and mix'n'master pack are now included with scope v5.1.
For old creamware systems, it is one of the main interest for upgrading to 5.1 if you do not need win 7 drivers for the moment.

So Prodyssey isnt there. It must be the last 'optional' synth left not bundled with any Scope version.

Anyway we can start with the synths in the 'new in Scope 5.1' list and I can flag in comments ones which also come standard in earlier Scope versions. Maybe a color code or something.

That way any prospective Scope buyer who sees the page would be clear on what synths they would get depending on whether they are buying a brand new XITE or just a second hand PCI card with only Scope 4.0 on it from here or eBay.

No there are more optionnal SC synth. These are:
- SC Prodyssey
- SC ProTone
- SC 6-strings
- SC Modular IV !!!!

just check:
http://sonic-core.net/joomla.soniccore/ ... 28&lang=us

I have all of them but host by different systems:
- the Prodyssey is on my Xite-1 but it was transfered from the Pulsar II card I sent back to SC when I bought my Xite-1.
- the 6-strings is on my SDK PC system
- the Mod IV is host on my small scope v5.1 system which is dedicated to ... modular stuff
- the ProTone is available in my NOAH (OK Prodyssey and 6-String are also there)

Hurolura, thats a good list - so those 4 I will put on a seperate page as 'optional' synths.

I think broadly there are 3 categories of synth / sampler inclusion :

1) Stock with Scope 4.0 and above
2) Included with Synth and Sampler package (either purchased or included with Scope 5.0+ if owning 15DSP or over)
3) Optional Extra (Prody, ProTone, 6-String, ModIV)

As an extra note regards purchase of Scope Hardware, 2) above would apply only to those purchasing 2nd hand PCI boards as for PCI, S|C only manufacture 3DSP now which would not included S&S package (I would assume).

v5.1 includes both s&s and m&m for everyone.

Even 3DSP ? thats a pretty good deal then, and thanks for the clarification.

So its only the 4 optionals that arent included with any Scope hardware ( 3DSP / XITE ) sold today.

I suppose we could call them all (bar those 4) 'Stock' then. And only 2nd hand PCI buyers would need clarification on which ones they would get based on which version of Scope is on the 2nd hand hardware.

If all those synths in the 5.1 list are included on any new hardware today then thats a pretty good sales pitch in itself.

Anyway, does the following look right ?

I think so ... here we go !!!

Just added 2 soundclips for Prodyssey and Prisma ...

Anyone got any more favourite presets for :

MiniMax
B2003
Uknow
Vectron
LightWave
Pro5
Inferno
Poison
Prodyssey
Prisma

?

Here's my 'so far' list - still need to do Minimax, Pro 5 Prisma nad Lightwave, but there's a lot of presets to sift through there. I have chosen two factory presets and two user presets to try and show not just the classic sounds expected but maybe something a little unexpected. I have included the name as well as the preset number in case they don't quite match (I often split banks or renumber etc. so differrence occur).


B2003
Factory: Factory Bank 1 Preset 05 B. Preston
Factory Bank 1 Preset 101 Smoke on the Water
User: Mr Arkadin Preset 25 High Plains Drifter
Mr Arkadin Preset 59 Violin I&III w/Leslie


Vectron/Vectron Player
Factory: Factory Bank 1 Preset 08 Arpegged Saw
Preset 48 Flying Vector
User: BW Bank Preset 09 Why Not Infinity?
Xamus Bank Preset 22 Ostinato-Dur

SB404
Factory: Preset 09 Contre
Preset 43 Moving EQ
User: Mr Arkadin Preset 04 CompuPhonic I
Mr Arkadin Preset 19 Phasing Trance


Poison
Factory: Preset 15 Crystal Motions
Preset 39 FX 2
User: Mr Arkadin Preset 51 Spooky Yet Soothing
Mr Arkadin Preset 30 Hollow Vox Bass


EDS 16i
Factory: Preset 09 Electronix
Preset 11 High Voltage
User: Mr Arkadin Preset 01 Clipped Electro Kit
Mr Arkadin Preset 06 Plinky Boom Combo


EDS 8i
Factory: Preset 03 Set D
Preset 09 Set I
User: Mr Arkadin Preset 04 Long Set
Mr Arkadin Preset 05 Nice Sub Set


BlueSynth
Factory: Factory 3.0 Preset 47 Getting Gated
Factory 3.0 103 Sync Resonances
User: Mr Arkadin Preset 04 Chordal
Mr Arkadin Preset 34 Three Oct Squ


EZSynth
Factory: Preset 58 Pad 1
Preset 87 Rez Drone Bass
User: Chisel Preset 07 Pad
Mr Arkadin Preset 37 Sub Bass I


miniscope
Factory: Factory 1.0 Preset 93 Wakemoog-Solo
Factory 3.0 Preset 09 Behemoth
User: Mr Arkadin Preset 04 Classic
Mr Arkadin Preset 25 Sombre Strings


miniscope MkII
Factory: Preset 13 Ba-Perc 4
Preset 55 Bass-1
User: Mr Arkadin Preset 04 Classic
Mr Arkadin Preset 25 Sombre Strings


U KNOW 007
Factory: Preset 01 Ana Strings 1
Preset 16 Choppy Bass VEL
User: Theo Moebus Conv Preset 04 Fat Uknow Pad
Mr Arkadin Preset 32 Mega Sub Drone


Inferno
Factory: Factory 1.0 57 Sub Bass 4
Factory 3.0 16 Dark Granite
User: Severe Rage Preset 12 Rage Bass 09.2
Mr Arkadin Preset 23 Overdrive Bass I


proTone
Factory: Preset 27 Eoww AT
Preset 38 Gnarl Bass
User: Mr Arkadin Preset 33 DocuPad II
Mr Arkadin Preset 70 Observer II

Excellant I'll make some demos (unless you already got some?) of some of those & maybe put all that info on a seperate page well done.