Page 1 of 1
Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:57 am
by Cochise
I use a lot Waves C4 paragraphic multiband compressor, often with good results.
Any alternative tool, for Scope environment?
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:12 am
by Janni
optimaster is worth a try

Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:27 am
by erminardi
Optimaster is my mastering tool since 2004 for multiband compression.
I like a lot the wizard that aid to obtaina a good point of start (then use your ears to fine adjust...).
My wish is a 5 bands Optimaster from S|C, but sincerely 3 bands are in almost all cases the sufficient number

Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:08 pm
by Cochise
Looks like it isn't available as a single plugin...
I've already got vocodizer and interpole... I wouldn't consider to go for mix 'n ' master pack 2...
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:19 pm
by dante
You could try getting this :

- multicomp
- multicomp.JPG (55 KiB) Viewed 3337 times
from here :
http://www.scopedsp.com/purchase_all.php
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:46 pm
by Cochise
dante wrote:You could try getting this :
What about DSP load?
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:54 pm
by dawman
Or build your own in Assafs' Modular Class............

Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:53 pm
by dante
Cochise wrote:dante wrote:You could try getting this :
What about DSP load?
Everything you need to know about it is here :
http://www.scopedsp.com/products_multicomp.php
..about 2 DSP -- quote :
"How Much DSP does it takes?
The Multicomp PRO takes 2 DSP the LITE version 1 DSP. Both are included in the package But you must remember : this is a finalizer. You must, mix your song, and then use the Multicomp to enhance and adapt your mix to the media you want : club, radio, hi-fi... It is a non-sense to load the Multicomp Stereo in your project with all your synths and devices. Sometime you will apply it directly at the recoding stage, but most of the time, directly on the final mix. So don't worry about the DSP load! "
But I use it both ways - either in a 'Mastering Only' project, or in a single 'Mix and Master' project.
I'm not one of those that say mastering neccessarily has to be a seperate process. During final mixdown ( to mastered version ) - I'll often tweak individual track volumes / EQ.... but then I'm only a songwriter / hobbyist....

... so its just as easy for me to press the 'Wizard' button in Optimaster. In Multicomp I'd solo / tweak each band seperately by ear. A true engineer who knows more about each frequency band and notching / sidechaining etc would no doubt get more out of it than I would...
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:42 am
by maky325
dante wrote:Cochise wrote:dante wrote:You could try getting this :
What about DSP load?
Everything you need to know about it is here :
http://www.scopedsp.com/products_multicomp.php
..about 2 DSP -- quote :
"How Much DSP does it takes?
The Multicomp PRO takes 2 DSP the LITE version 1 DSP. Both are included in the package But you must remember : this is a finalizer. You must, mix your song, and then use the Multicomp to enhance and adapt your mix to the media you want : club, radio, hi-fi... It is a non-sense to load the Multicomp Stereo in your project with all your synths and devices. Sometime you will apply it directly at the recoding stage, but most of the time, directly on the final mix. So don't worry about the DSP load! "
But I use it both ways - either in a 'Mastering Only' project, or in a single 'Mix and Master' project.
I'm not one of those that say mastering neccessarily has to be a seperate process. During final mixdown ( to mastered version ) - I'll often tweak individual track volumes / EQ.... but then I'm only a songwriter / hobbyist....

... so its just as easy for me to press the 'Wizard' button in Optimaster. In Multicomp I'd solo / tweak each band seperately by ear. A true engineer who knows more about each frequency band and notching / sidechaining etc would no doubt get more out of it than I would...
Dadev seems interesting but in Scope 5 i only get silence and demo beep tone?? Or some demos process only left channel? I have their DSP pack files but still nothing works for me?
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:39 am
by dante
The Multicomp was one of the very first things I tried after installing Scope 5.0. I copied the DSPLIB and all the other files required over and it just worked. If you cant resolve it, I'll try and make a list of the files involved...
I agree with erminardi - Optimaster wizard is a pretty amazing tool, but I haven't really spent enough time on it to compare just the multiband compression part of it to MultiComp.
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:27 am
by astroman
that dsplib was highly suspective to failure in earlier versions of Scope (if memory serves me...)
really interesting that it works in Scope 5 (or at least seems to...).
cheers, Tom
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:26 am
by amyweaver29
Thanks for the information. I will try the Optimaster.
Regards and God bless,
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:33 pm
by dante
astroman wrote:that dsplib was highly suspective to failure in earlier versions of Scope (if memory serves me...)
really interesting that it works in Scope 5 (or at least seems to...).
cheers, Tom
I never really had too many problems with dsplib ( as long as I read the doco & downloaded latest ver etc ). Mind you I was a late adopter ( could have missed the early days/versions ) & the demo versions would have been long wiped from my system and only running full version.
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:29 am
by astroman
yeah, it's been long time - possibly related to Scope 3 housekeeping of DSP files, as non DaDev devices used to fail.
cheers, Tom
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:24 pm
by Cochise
Anyone about Mubaco? I haven't got yet the time to check it.
I really like to use MovEq; just... looks like the version I have here shows wrong values in frequency fields; I mean, if I set a peak or a notch on a certain freq, FFT analysis shows the peak or notch on a shifted frequency value
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:25 pm
by the19thbear
Mubaco is great. Alot better than optimaster imo. I love the Sound of the comps and saturation ón this device plus i looks great
The user interface is a little bit "hidden" though. You have to Press alot of buttons to get to the parameter you want. A more open layout with All the controls available would be Nice..... But now im just being picky

its a great device!
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:02 pm
by at0m
Cochise wrote:I use a lot Waves C4 paragraphic multiband compressor, often with good results.
Any alternative tool, for Scope environment?
Tried
Final Liza?
Re: Paragraphic multiband compressor
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:01 pm
by Cochise
Just downloaded. I'll try it soon, thx.