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hi there


i own an "old" luna ii ( named scope home if it is correct) but i forgot how to create a simple route through the project window in which i play a midi keyboard, use only virtual instruments with cubase and want to use the scope home audio output.

can you tell me what the simplest project for this purpose should be?

thanks in advance

load a midi source: this is you midi input from the keyobard
load a sequencer midi dest module: this is your cubase midi input

connect the latter two modules

load ASIO source: this is you cubase audio output
load luna analog dest: this is your physical audio out to speaker.

connect the latter two modules


it should work.

you may find useful these old pages from my website:

http://www.alchemystudio.it/Tutorial/Cr ... ial_en.htm

I am not sure what you consider virtual, but this is how I hook up a DAW with a virtual instrument loaded by Reaper. Scope only mixes and routes, with zero effects since I am unfamiliar with the DSP usage of a Luna card.
Reaper and most Sequencer apps have a fair mixer in them so actually the ASIO Source could be stereo and straight into Master verb then stereo out into the ASIO Dest or Analog Out module.

hi xite 1 4 life


i meant "virtual insturments" such as fm8, kontakt, absynth, etc etc

in the specific, in your project what is the function of ASIO 2 dest 64?
that is to say...what is it?

the audio i/o for the sequencer. study the manual, please.

ASIO dest is not i/o.


Garyb calm down dont be so aggressive!!!

giusmex wrote:ASIO dest is not i/o.

OK, you're right. No need to ask here then. Of course you won't actually hear anything.

Mr Arkadin wrote:

giusmex wrote:ASIO dest is not i/o.

OK, you're right. No need to ask here then. Of course you won't actually hear anything.

hi arkadin

i just meant that asio dest is either input or output, not i/o

i was only wondering what could be the use od "Asio dest module"; that is to say, in the image posted by XITE 4 life above here, i saw an asio dest module which received an input from another asio source; the output is also sent to the analog output; what could be the use of an asio dest module in this project? just to learn

bye

Hi, giusmex,

Basically follow what was said earlier by bosone and XITE-1/4LIVE. Then to use virtual instruments you load them up in your sequencer and then route them via the ASIO out in the sequencer which is basically the same as the ASIO in module in the scope routing window. The MIDI input which you will see in the sequencer is actually Sequencer MIDI Dest module in Scope routing window which you then create a midi track in the sequencer and use that to control the VSTi in the sequencer. Then as XITE-1/4LIVE shows in the Scope routing window you can connect the ASIO out module to a Scope mixer and the Mixer out connects to the Analog out module which is the Physical output to your Amp/Speakers.

Hope that makes sense

Ok to answer your question(finally).

Put in the luna midi source connect to seq dest.Then you have midi in your sequencer.

Take the asio source connect to luna analog dest.

Thats it.You can put a mixer inbetween the asio source>mixer> luna analog dest.

Make sure to select scope asio in the sequencer and to load the projekt before you start the sequencer.

giusmex wrote: i was only wondering what could be the use od "Asio dest module"; that is to say, in the image posted by XITE 4 life above here, i saw an asio dest module which received an input from another asio source; the output is also sent to the analog output; what could be the use of an asio dest module in this project? just to learn

Well you might like to record your final mix to stereo in Cubase.

the asio dest is the INPUT inro your sequencer. it is like the audio jacks on a multitrack tape deck. the asio source is the OUTPUT from the sequencer. it is like the audio output jacks on a multitrack tape deck. the routing window is the room that the tape deck is in. you can decide how many inputs and outputs your recorder(sequencer) has by right clicking on the source module and choosing surfaces/asio settings, just be sure that the sequencer is closed when making changes.

this is in the manual.


i don't refer you to the manual to be mean, i'm VERY happy to help! Scope is a very big thing, as far as what can possibly be done with it. the Scope environment freely interfaces with the real world and multiple apllications in REAL TIME. anything that can be done in the real world can be done in and/or with Scope. you really will want to check out the manual, not to read cover to cover, but to study the chapter or page having to do with what you want to use. it'll slow you down right now, but it'll speed you up for the rest of the future...

Oh yeah i forgot about the asio dest......Add conections to it and the luna analog dest.Damn easter holiday stress....

giusmex wrote:ASIO dest is not i/o.
Garyb calm down dont be so aggressive!!!

sorry to drop in here - I wouldn't have, if you had left out the exclamation marks...
there is a folder with example projects in the default installation, as there's the manual.
It would have been the most simple, natural and polite way for you to at least have a peak at those.
Instead you treat a community like a service at your command.
Even using imperatives a couple of time. Ridiculous is a very mild description.
I have nothing against you personally, but that kind of behavior 'prototype' just pi**es me off, sorry.

cheers, Tom

astroman wrote:

giusmex wrote:ASIO dest is not i/o.
Garyb calm down dont be so aggressive!!!

sorry to drop in here - I wouldn't have, if you had left out the exclamation marks...
there is a folder with example projects in the default installation, as there's the manual.
It would have been the most simple, natural and polite way for you to at least have a peak at those.
Instead you treat a community like a service at your command.
Even using imperatives a couple of time. Ridiculous is a very mild description.
I have nothing against you personally, but that kind of behavior 'prototype' just pi**es me off, sorry.

cheers, Tom

Cmon.... Dont post if angry.Think about new users who drop by to check out stuff.They find this thread and the responses..shrug and go away.The internet doesnt forget.

imperatives?

they are of course manieristic imperatives, that is to say imperatives functional to incidental sentences, not true
imperatives; i was only joking; every question can make anyone learn.

i dont think that this sentence means that i want the community under my command!
i would invite you to be less crude in your expressions.


anyway i received many explanations, thank You all !
i understood replies by mr arkadin and fluxpod; now i have at least a supposition: that asio dest module ( cubase, for instance) could serve, for example, for receiving all of the "mixed" inputs processed by the scope mixer that has, in turn, received input from another sequencer.
Perfect!!

thanks

Fluxpod wrote: Cmon.... Dont post if angry.Think about new users who drop by to check out stuff.They find this thread and the responses..shrug and go away.The internet doesnt forget.

Flux I'm neither angry nor aggressive.
I just have an opinion.
Which I've kept for myself, as I've read the original question earlier - and GaryB already expressed what I had in mind.

Then guismex comes along and calls a very polite answer 'aggressive'
What he (or she) looked for IS in the manual AND in the example folder.
Imho that's just over the top, but the poster is happy... so be it...

cheers, Tom

Tom.I know! And you are being always helpfull.I bite my tongue on several occasions.And to be fair.The manual...kinda sucks.For a person that isnt on task with routing its way easy to get very lost in no time.Anyways problem solved happy music making.