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Gigastudio 4 w/ Scope GSIF Drivers

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:50 pm
by dawman
Just wanted to let my Brotha's know that Gigastudio 4 is a kick ass app for recording or live, even w/ the drivers that Creamware made last century.

These 2 apps combined are so complimentary as the CPU amd HDD's appear to work separately from the DSP cards still.

GS4 has the ability to go XP32 / XP64/ Vista 32 / Vista 64, and is currently hosting my Kontackt instruments also.

I love Kontackt romplers but when doing FM8 layers w/ Celmo's Bluewave, or any Scope based instrument the latency drove me nuts.

Gigastudio operates it's MIDI at the kernel level and the ULLI of Scope w/ GSIF is awesome.

Even w/ Kontackt 3 being 64bit I will still use GS4 as the VSTi / VST FX host as it allows those great romplers to sound and perform better.

It sounds better, and loads tons of content just w/ the 3GB PAE.

I cannot wait for XITE-1 so I can load 8 GB's of RAM and go to XP64. Fuck Vista, it is not 4 me.

My dream DAW is very close now. :D

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:59 am
by Music Manic
Is this GVI Jimmy or is it standalone?

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:47 pm
by dawman
Gigastudio 4 Brotha',......the real deal.

Folks in the UK will get it before we do in the States, due to air mail vrs. ground here.

It should be released in a week or two here.

If you have GS3 already the 200 USD Upgrade is a steal.

Gigastudio 4 Info

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:24 am
by Marzipan
Hi guys,
I just saw your post regarding Gigastudio 4, and I'm really interested in getting a bit more information about how it could work with my system. I've seen a few bits of information regarding GS4 on the net, but often it's confusing and I'm having trouble working out if I could use it, and exactly what the advantages would be.
Basically I'm using VSL Pro Edition, which I've used since 2004 (first with GS 160 then GS3) and have no plans to upgrade to the new Vienna Instruments. Firstly I like the sound of the Pro Edition and it does everything I need. Also the upgrade to VI is expensive, so I'm not interested in going down this route.
The only problem I've ever had is the limitation of the amount of samples I'm able to load in with GS3, and I didn't want to go down the route of getting several PCs in order to load the full orchestra. I was getting around it by having several GS3 sessions, but this is fiddly and time-consuming.
It appears that with GS4 this limation has been lifted... So my main question is, if I get a 64 bit PC, running GS4 will I actually be able to load samples up to the amount of RAM in the PC? I've seen motherboards which can take 32 GB or even 64 GB of RAM, would these be compatible and would I really be able to load anywhere near this amount of samples?! This seems too good to be true, and I'm thinking there must be a catch somewhere?!
The only other issue is that I'm using Scope Professional cards, so would I be able to use these with a 64 bit PC, or would I need to upgrade to x-cite in order to take advantage of GS4s massive sample loading? Many motherboards seem to have PCI and PCI-E slots so I'm assuming I'd still be able to use my Scope Pro cards??
Any information on this topic would be really useful to me, and I'd be very grateful to hear the opinions of experienced users. Btw I don't need to run ANY extra stuff from Gigastudio, like the convolution reverb or other plug ins, literally all I want to be able to do is use it to load large volumes of samples. Thanks in advance for your help.[/i]

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:51 am
by Marzipan
Sorry for posting in the wrong forum! I assumed because using Gigastudio with Scope cards was already being discussed in this thread then it seemed ok to ask this question, but obviously not (and I apologise for being an inexperienced poster...)
I'm still really a novice in terms of what all the 64 bit technology means, and don't understand what's going on at quite a basic level. Your reply told me a little bit, but I'm still unclear as to whether the older DSP cards which I'm using would be compatible with a 64 bit system, even if the software were 64 bit (wouldn't this mean new drivers etc.?).
Seems like this is the wrong place to ask this sort of question though, so I'll try a different forum...

Cheers.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:54 am
by garyb
no, your post isn't bad, really. there's no 64bit support for Scope...yet. perhaps with V5.....

you can use the /3Gb switch in your boot.ini to allow 3GB of ram for programs(if you have 4GB in the machine). this would probably be enough for the moment......

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:43 am
by Neutron
how is the midi editing?

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:21 am
by Marzipan
Thanks for all the replies to this, much appreciated. I'm currently using Gigastudio, which does not support the 3GB switch... But I wasn't aware of this before, and apparently it does work with GVI, so I'm definitely going to look into changing over and using GVI to get the extra RAM now, at least this is a short term solution.
In the long term it would be amazing if Sonic Core updated the software so that the older Scope cards could work in 64 bit, but I guess this is not going to happen immediately! Thanks again, this is a great forum.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:53 pm
by dawman
You will love GVI.

It is a really great way to play samples of high quality, and size.

It never crashed once on me recording, or during a gig.

The 3GB switch and GVi were actually all that I needed most of the time.

If 64bit XP doesn't work out w/ GS4 the way I hope, GVI 64bit will be an incredible back up solution as it will be a player only and use less horsepower than the Gigastudio version.

The big benfit of Gigastudio is the hosting of VSTi's and the editing of performances IMHO.

The Pedal Steel Guitar from Wavelore is an amazing instrument, and shows the great abilities that Gigastudio offers.

Many developers seem to prefer K2 & K3, but Wavelore seems to have uncovered some incredible performance features I have never thought or heard of.

Mark Belbin is the developer to be watching for anything sample based for the next few years.

I consider him the John Bowen of sampling instruments.

While everyone else regurgitates the same old shit with a new name or worthless feature that sounds good on paper, he's knocking down the walls creating instruments nobody else has the balls to even try and harness.

The Pedal Steel through a Leslie w/ a ribbon controller is nothing short of amazing.

With Scope and Giga, there seems to be a perfect match made in Heaven. :wink: